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[19:19:00] Ina Centaur: hi!
[19:19:08] Ina Centaur: welcome to twilight book 1 chapter 6!
[19:19:31] Ji Ni: yay!
[19:19:38] Ina Centaur: SCARY STORIES :-O
[19:20:06] Ji Ni: where!
[19:20:13] Ina Centaur: (that's the chapter name o.O)
[19:20:19] Ji Ni: oh lol
[19:20:34] Ji Ni: oh is this the beach scene
[19:20:45] Ina Centaur: yup
[19:20:53] Ji Ni: cool :)
[19:21:00] Ina Centaur: chapter without edward :-\
[19:21:25] Ji Ni: ya but she needed to get away
[19:21:31] Ina Centaur: so far, i think the variations of with and w/o edward are well timed.. and you get engrossed in the other details, so that you're not yearning for edward thru the chapters... (unlike some other books in the saga)
[19:22:41] Ji Ni: i think its more realistic
[19:23:02] Ji Ni: makes more of a 3d landscape of the story environment to have more relations
[19:23:50] Ina Centaur: sure.
[19:23:58] Ina Centaur: but i think bella wanted edward to be there..
[19:24:16] Ji Ni: true
[19:25:02] Ji Ni: do you think jacob knows at that point edward is a vamp?
[19:25:26] Ina Centaur: nah, i think jacob thinks it's all stories
[19:25:29] Ina Centaur: sam might though..
[19:25:38] Ina Centaur: sam was supposedly the first who shapeshifted
[19:25:46] Ina Centaur: not sure if it's before or after their expedition to la push
[19:25:50] Ji Ni: so what brought up the stories ya think? just a plot device?
[19:26:08] Ina Centaur: i think jacob wanted to impress her..
[19:26:16] Ji Ni: ah hehe
[19:26:34] Ji Ni: the ol' get her to scream and jump in my arms trick
[19:27:22] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:27:28] Ina Centaur: hmmm
[19:27:33] Ina Centaur: not sure if it's *that* yet...
[19:27:39] Ina Centaur: i think they've just met... after a long time
[19:27:49] Ina Centaur: some degree of not-as-closeness, despite that they knew each other as kids
[19:28:05] Ji Ni: true
[19:28:33] Ji Ni: and i thnk he has that wolf bonding thing, and although he loves bella i think he also feels its not quite 'right'
[19:28:52] Ina Centaur: weird that the chapter started with bella trying to read the 3rd act of macB
[19:29:02] Ina Centaur: (as she waits for alice to drive her truck back)
[19:29:31] Ina Centaur: hmm interesting..
[19:29:41] Ina Centaur: so the wolfness thing is already developing in J?
[19:30:04] Ji Ni: its latent i suppose, kinda like pre-vamp powers
[19:30:14] Ina Centaur: hmmm
[19:30:20] Ji Ni: i wonder how it would turn out if jacob got bit
[19:30:36] Ina Centaur: supposedly venom is deadly to shapeshifters
[19:30:57] Ji Ni: would be trippy to have vampwolves
[19:31:14] Ji Ni: werevamps?
[19:31:20] Ina Centaur: wrong mythos.. lol this isn't underworld
[19:31:26] Ji Ni: sorry lol
[19:31:30] Ina Centaur: lol although i think that's what Aro wanted to experiment with..
[19:32:04] Ji Ni: ya it was interesting how they eluded to the existence of other supernatural beings as well
[19:32:20] Ina Centaur: ?
[19:32:38] Ji Ni: pretty sure they did anyway hehe
[19:32:46] Ina Centaur: oh, yes, jacob describes werewolves and vampires without mentioning their common names - until later
[19:33:05] Ina Centaur: also, jacob wasn't supposed to tell this story to anyone..
[19:33:14] Ina Centaur: supposed to be tribal secret
[19:33:36] Ina Centaur: but he actually ends up telling that story of the cold ones..
[19:33:54] Ji Ni: thats true, i gues she really didnt thing they were important
[19:34:10] Ina Centaur: either he think it's a joke or just a scary story..
[19:34:20] Ji Ni: but then again bella found them again in books, so i guess someone leaked it at some other time
[19:34:26] Ina Centaur: or he's already developed a thing for bella.. or trusts her at least
[19:34:54] Ina Centaur: it's interesting how possessive the guys are around bella though.. when mike comes to take bella back to the suburban, jacob called him her b/f lol
[19:35:38] Ji Ni: i guess she is that attractive, the story makes it out to be so even though bella isnt concious of it
[19:36:17] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:37:15] Ina Centaur: so, yeah, this chapter is basically about the story.. and to get it in bella's head that there's nothing radioactive about Edward. the *v* word
[19:38:08] Alice Frostbite: Aw... did I miss the discussion?
[19:38:18] Ji Ni: Hello Alice :)
[19:38:22] Alice Frostbite: Hi :D
[19:38:37] Ji Ni: join in
[19:38:40] Ina Centaur: nope, still going on!
[19:38:43] Ji Ni: still discussing it
[19:38:49] Ina Centaur: today - officially chapter 6, but kinda open to all
[19:39:08] Alice Frostbite: :)
[19:39:23] Alice Frostbite: Oh cool :D This is the first one I've been to because I always miss them lol
[19:39:58] Alice Frostbite: BRB
[19:40:05] Ji Ni: ok
[19:41:05] Alice Frostbite: K. I invited my friend Wanda up lol
[19:41:17] Alice Frostbite: She's nuts about Twilight
[19:41:37] Ji Ni: great :)
[19:41:53] Alice Frostbite: Hi Wanda
[19:41:54] Ji Ni: have you read all the books?
[19:41:59] Alice Frostbite: Yes a few times now lol
[19:42:00] Wanda Sandalwood: Hey Alice.
[19:42:10] Alice Frostbite: I read Twilight in 2005 I think
[19:42:39] Ina Centaur: cool!
[19:42:42] Ji Ni: wow :) i only caught on to it a few months ago
[19:42:42] Alice Frostbite: :)
[19:42:57] Ina Centaur: so yeah, the crazy experiment is to try anazlying twilight to death..
[19:43:03] Alice Frostbite: Lol yeah that's the same with my friends because I nag them to read it hehe
[19:43:09] Alice Frostbite: Haha that cant be too hard
[19:43:30] Ina Centaur: and to re-read it extremely slowly... like a chapter a day over the span of a month
[19:43:55] Ina Centaur: ;-P
[19:44:01] Wanda Sandalwood: Heheh
[19:44:07] Alice Frostbite: lol
[19:44:35] Ji Ni: so, why do you think she included the whole werewolf thing at all?
[19:44:49] Ji Ni: why not just have the natives be human
[19:45:01] Alice Frostbite: I think it's more special with
[19:45:03] Alice Frostbite: oh
[19:45:07] Ina Centaur: i think she wanted to develop her more mythos?
[19:45:11] Ina Centaur: erm
[19:45:13] Ina Centaur: her *own mythos
[19:45:15] Alice Frostbite: If the werewolves werent there
[19:45:16] Alice Frostbite: then
[19:45:22] Alice Frostbite: what would happen
[19:45:24] Alice Frostbite: to Renesmee?
[19:45:35] Alice Frostbite: And none of the legends would really work as well without them
[19:45:41] Ina Centaur: she won't get imprinted on???
[19:45:45] Ina Centaur: lol >.>
[19:45:46] Wanda Sandalwood: no, they wouldn't
[19:45:47] JS Uralia: hi I hope I'm not inturrupting
[19:45:57] Alice Frostbite: Lol yeah but she would probably be really lonely forever
[19:45:59] Ji Ni: Hello JS :)
[19:46:00] Wanda Sandalwood: and bella probably wouldn't know about the Cullen's
[19:46:13] JS Uralia: uhh, from across the alleyway
[19:46:18] Ina Centaur: hi, welcome to our obsesively detailed (and otherwise) analysis of Twilight!
[19:46:21] Ji Ni: she met them in school
[19:46:31] JS Uralia: thanks
[19:46:35] Wanda Sandalwood: yes but I mean, she wouldn't know they were vampires :P
[19:46:36] Alice Frostbite: Yeah but remember she found the legends out from Jacob
[19:46:42] Wanda Sandalwood: didn't jacob tell her?
[19:46:52] Alice Frostbite: Oh Wanda snap lol
[19:46:54] Ina Centaur: yup..
[19:46:55] Wanda Sandalwood: I don't remember ha
[19:47:05] Ji Ni: she could do that through other plot devices though, but why werewolves
[19:47:08] Ina Centaur: in book 1, jacob's scary stories were what cued her into the possibility of Edward being a vamp
[19:47:13] Wanda Sandalwood: True
[19:47:17] Ina Centaur: before that, recall she was thinking along the lines of spiderman and batman... >.>
[19:47:22] Alice Frostbite: LOL
[19:47:26] Ina Centaur: bella's a funny girl.
[19:47:35] Wanda Sandalwood: haha
[19:47:41] Alice Frostbite: Yes
[19:47:47] JS Uralia: I just came to see the theater.... but when I saw Ina on radar I had to pop in and say I was impressed by The Tech exhibit with the copybot, so here I am and that's why
[19:48:05] Wanda Sandalwood: so yeah, without the wolves, there wouldn't really be any legends, and so bella would probably go onto think edwards superman
[19:48:06] Wanda Sandalwood: xD
[19:48:14] Alice Frostbite: Hahahahhaa
[19:48:28] Ina Centaur: oh no... so js... you're not the rare guy who's read twilight? :-O
[19:48:31] Ji Ni: /me pictures ed in tights
[19:48:39] Wanda Sandalwood: /me eye twitches
[19:48:40] Ina Centaur: /me would like spiderEd :-O
[19:49:01] Wanda Sandalwood: ha! spiderEd
[19:49:02] Wanda Sandalwood: catchy
[19:49:04] Wanda Sandalwood: :P
[19:49:09] Alice Frostbite: I think if the werewolves weren't there it would be a little bit boring because if Jacob hadn't picked up the phone in New Moon Edward wouldn't have gone to the Volturi and they helped protect Bella against Victoria... she would be dead without them
[19:49:10] JS Uralia: oh, sorry. My only exposure to Twilight was a few weeks ago when I read a rant from someone who hates it, sorry to say
[19:49:23] JS Uralia: but the theater is really nice ... :)
[19:49:24] Wanda Sandalwood: yes
[19:49:32] Wanda Sandalwood: Jacob shakes things up haha
[19:49:34] Alice Frostbite: Not that I like Bella or anything
[19:49:42] Alice Frostbite: but she is the main character lol she can't really die
[19:49:48] Wanda Sandalwood: well, she could
[19:49:52] Wanda Sandalwood: but people would be angry
[19:50:25] Ina Centaur: (actually i would really have preferred if new moon were werewolf-less..)
[19:50:42] JS Uralia: please excuse me; sorry to inturrupt
[19:50:48] Wanda Sandalwood: i wouldn't! it would be so boring haha
[19:50:51] Ina Centaur: and yeah.. i agree it's all jacob's fault :-O
[19:50:53] Wanda Sandalwood: but jacob turns into a bit of an ass after he turns
[19:50:54] Alice Frostbite: Yeah I would too I really dislike the werewolves but if it were it would be like 200 pages of Bella moping lol
[19:50:54] Ina Centaur: it was torture
[19:50:55] Ina Centaur: seriously..
[19:51:00] Ina Centaur: expect to read a vamp novel..
[19:51:04] Ina Centaur: and end up reading...
[19:51:08] Ina Centaur: 300 pages of werwewolf lore :-O
[19:51:10] Ina Centaur: @#$#@%^#$@^
[19:51:12] Wanda Sandalwood: haha xD
[19:51:33] Wanda Sandalwood: aha
[19:51:34] Wanda Sandalwood: jacob kind of deserves to be hunted up with a crowbar tbh :P
[19:51:38] Alice Frostbite: Hehe I admit I skipped to the end to see if Edward came back
[19:51:56] Wanda Sandalwood: I didn't, but I read NM first
[19:52:05] Wanda Sandalwood: So I didn't really know who Edward wa
[19:52:07] Wanda Sandalwood: was*
[19:52:25] Ina Centaur: wow..
[19:52:29] Wanda Sandalwood: haha
[19:52:42] Ina Centaur: so you liked twilight.... even though the first taste you had was new moon?
[19:52:57] Wanda Sandalwood: yeah, i didnt like nm that much tbh :l
[19:53:02] Wanda Sandalwood: it was very depressing haha
[19:53:15] Wanda Sandalwood: all the other books are way better
[19:53:16] Ina Centaur: well i guess that could work.. you aren't already intoxicated by book1's edward...
[19:53:24] Wanda Sandalwood: mmm lol
[19:53:45] Alice Frostbite: I was actually more interested in Twilight's other Cullen's when I read book 1
[19:53:47] Wanda Sandalwood: So I ended up being Team Jacob up until he turned :P
[19:53:51] Wanda Sandalwood: yes, same
[19:53:57] Alice Frostbite: Like I wanted to know more about Rosalie especially
[19:53:58] Wanda Sandalwood: I don't find Edward to be that great actually
[19:54:06] Alice Frostbite: and why she was always so moody
[19:54:18] Ina Centaur: that's so interesting..
[19:54:31] Alice Frostbite: lol
[19:54:32] Ina Centaur: if someone fell in love with jacob before edward, i guess...
[19:54:39] Wanda Sandalwood: yeah
[19:54:42] Ina Centaur: edward would be like jacob... to everyone who loves jacob..
[19:54:43] Ina Centaur: huh..
[19:54:58] Wanda Sandalwood: haha :P
[19:55:03] Wanda Sandalwood: yeah he kind of annoys me LOL
[19:55:07] Wanda Sandalwood: but i liked him in breaking dawn
[19:55:09] Ina Centaur: yeah i guess in new moon Meyer does spend many more pages getting you to fall in love(-ish) with jacob
[19:55:23] Alice Frostbite: I did NOT fall in love with Jacob LOL
[19:55:27] Ina Centaur: jacob really annoys me x.x ... kinda like a kid brother or a dog >.>
[19:55:35] Wanda Sandalwood: hahaha!
[19:55:40] Alice Frostbite: it seemed like he always expected more from Bella even when he knew she didnt want to
[19:55:55] Ina Centaur: yeah.. i mean i wouldn't want jacob to die or disappear or to not be a character... but.... lol
[19:56:00] Wanda Sandalwood: jacob definately needs more love though, just love for when he was nice
[19:56:28] Wanda Sandalwood: :(
[19:56:30] Ina Centaur: yeah, so i guess you think bella's kind of mean then..
[19:56:32] Alice Frostbite: Yeah lol just stop being so pushy! I was glad when he imprinted on Renesmee because at least then we knew why he was always so drawn to Bella and he wasn't just desperate
[19:56:32] Wanda Sandalwood: people dont give him a chance because they were too busy trying to find out if edward came back
[19:56:34] Ina Centaur: if you start out with book 2
[19:56:43] Wanda Sandalwood: nah
[19:56:47] Ina Centaur: hmm
[19:56:49] Wanda Sandalwood: I just dont like bella in general :P
[19:56:58] Ina Centaur: i think it's because you had the wrong first impression of her lol
[19:56:58] Wanda Sandalwood: i think shes whiny and needy and indecisive :l
[19:57:03] Wanda Sandalwood: haha maybe :P
[19:57:05] Alice Frostbite: BRB
[19:57:15] Wanda Sandalwood: same
[19:57:43] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:57:52] Ina Centaur: so you wouldn't act similarly to bella?
[19:58:03] Ina Centaur: ... actually, would you prefer being wolf or vamp?
[19:59:49] Ina Centaur: .. my other theory for team edward goes like, people read vamp novels because they'd prefer being vamp (to other immortal/supernatural creatures)
[19:59:56] Wanda Sandalwood: back
[20:00:05] Wanda Sandalwood: hmm maybe
[20:00:34] Wanda Sandalwood: :]
[20:00:54] Ina Centaur: wanda, vamp or wolf?
[20:01:00] Wanda Sandalwood: both :P
[20:01:01] Alice Frostbite: Back
[20:01:09] Ina Centaur: lol.. choose one, cuz this isn't underworld, you can't be both
[20:01:10] Wanda Sandalwood: i like the wolves but i like edward in breaking dawn
[20:01:15] Wanda Sandalwood: hmm
[20:01:19] Wanda Sandalwood: probably vamp :P
[20:01:22] Wanda Sandalwood: haha :P
[20:01:23] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:01:25] Wanda Sandalwood: i like dogs but i dont want to be one LOL
[20:01:39] Wanda Sandalwood: so vamp :)
[20:01:41] Ina Centaur: yeah i think you just have the wrong first impression of bella and edward then....
[20:01:47] Wanda Sandalwood: probably
[20:01:49] Wanda Sandalwood: haha
[20:01:51] Ina Centaur: lol so what do you think of vamp's opinion of the wolves..
[20:01:54] Ina Centaur: that they're like rabid dogs
[20:01:55] Alice Frostbite: I would prefer to be a Vampire because you have more choice over everything... you can pick who you're with and you have a choice and when you're angry you don't turn into a wolve lol
[20:02:13] Wanda Sandalwood: haha i may have to agree about some wolves like sam :P
[20:02:19] Wanda Sandalwood: i really, really dont like sam lol
[20:03:09] Alice Frostbite: I don't really know anyone who does
[20:03:11] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:03:14] Wanda Sandalwood: haha
[20:03:19] Ina Centaur: the wolves do?
[20:03:26] Ina Centaur: i guess they understand the way he is..
[20:03:32] Wanda Sandalwood: hmm maybe
[20:03:35] Ina Centaur: he has it hardest and all.. being the first wolf
[20:03:36] Alice Frostbite: Yes but I mean fangirls lol... nobody is team Sam :P
[20:03:41] Ina Centaur: and accidentally eating off half his wife's face >.>
[20:03:46] Wanda Sandalwood: aaagh
[20:03:50] Wanda Sandalwood: D:
[20:03:52] Ina Centaur: would be nice if vamp blood were healing to other creatures..
[20:03:57] Ina Centaur: yeap.. remember what he did to her?
[20:04:06] Alice Frostbite: Yeah I understand that I feel really sorry for him because he didnt know how to control himself. Nobody taught him how to keep control
[20:04:10] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:04:17] Ina Centaur: is anyone team billy or team charlie though?
[20:04:18] Wanda Sandalwood: didnt he do that because he felt so bad about leah?
[20:04:27] Wanda Sandalwood: she*
[20:04:28] Alice Frostbite: Lol I'm Team Billy because he's awesome :P
[20:04:31] Wanda Sandalwood: he/she
[20:04:33] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:04:33] Wanda Sandalwood: xD
[20:04:37] Wanda Sandalwood: i donno
[20:04:47] Ina Centaur: team aro?
[20:04:54] Alice Frostbite: Movie Billy is way cooler than Book Billy
[20:05:02] Wanda Sandalwood: ewww! aro
[20:05:09] Wanda Sandalwood: isn't he supposed to look like an onion xd
[20:05:09] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:05:18] Wanda Sandalwood: gah lag
[20:05:19] Ina Centaur: yeah i think so.. with faded eyes and lumpy
[20:05:19] Wanda Sandalwood: xD*
[20:05:25] Wanda Sandalwood: blerch
[20:05:30] Wanda Sandalwood: i feel sorry for his wife :P
[20:05:40] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:05:59] Ina Centaur: they look kinda like the adams family.. remember when the entire coven came to forks in book 4?
[20:06:06] Wanda Sandalwood: yeah
[20:06:13] Ina Centaur: the wives at the end.. kinda imagine them as skeletal and wasted
[20:06:20] Alice Frostbite: Oh yuck!
[20:06:22] Wanda Sandalwood: blerch.
[20:06:23] Ina Centaur: dunno.. kinda feel sorry for aro
[20:06:24] Ina Centaur: lol jk
[20:06:29] Wanda Sandalwood: haha :P
[20:06:40] Ina Centaur: so yeah caius or the other guy lost his wife though
[20:06:53] Alice Frostbite: lol I feel sorry for the Volturi members who were forced to join because there bonds towards the Volturi were changed
[20:07:05] Wanda Sandalwood: i think caius's wife died coz aro killed her :L
[20:07:10] Ina Centaur: oh volturi mind control..
[20:07:11] Wanda Sandalwood: and his wife was aro's sister
[20:07:15] Wanda Sandalwood: aro's a horrible person
[20:07:19] Ina Centaur: wow really?
[20:07:19] Wanda Sandalwood: haha :P
[20:07:23] Wanda Sandalwood: yes i think so
[20:07:29] Ina Centaur: ...
[20:07:46] Alice Frostbite: Yes
[20:07:50] Wanda Sandalwood: i dont know why he did it but Im pretty sure aro did it
[20:07:50] Alice Frostbite: It's horrible
[20:07:57] Ina Centaur: so in the castings on youtube, people basically have brad pitt (louis) casted for caius
[20:07:58] Alice Frostbite: Maybe because Aro is EVIL
[20:08:05] Ina Centaur: well we know aro is evil..
[20:08:08] Alice Frostbite: OOOO
[20:08:12] Ina Centaur: lol but.... did he kill caius' wife?
[20:08:14] Wanda Sandalwood: haha
[20:08:18] Wanda Sandalwood: yes, he did
[20:08:19] Alice Frostbite: I would LOVE him to play Aro he was so good as Louis in IWTV
[20:08:23] Ina Centaur: hum...
[20:08:34] Wanda Sandalwood: so aro killed his sister, who was also caius's wife :l
[20:08:40] Ina Centaur: oh... like louis was the tortured one in IWTV...
[20:08:40] Alice Frostbite: I ADORED Brad Pitt as Louis... he is like my second favourite Vampire ever
[20:08:43] Alice Frostbite: Yes
[20:08:51] Alice Frostbite: but I think in a way Lestat was tortured too
[20:09:00] Wanda Sandalwood: i liked lestat :P he was deliciously evil haha
[20:09:00] Alice Frostbite: He just chose to be evil
[20:09:01] Ina Centaur: yup, you find out more about his own tortures in later books
[20:09:06] Alice Frostbite: Yep
[20:09:10] Ina Centaur: louis basically painted him as a villain in his book
[20:09:12] Wanda Sandalwood: and i liked kirsten dunst. she would make a good jane
[20:09:18] Ina Centaur: lol~!!!
[20:09:20] Wanda Sandalwood: she was very sweet but also evil
[20:09:21] Wanda Sandalwood: :P
[20:09:23] Ina Centaur: she's a bit old now though..
[20:09:29] Wanda Sandalwood: if she was younger of course haha
[20:09:38] Alice Frostbite: No definately not lol you can't have Claudia and Louis in an unrelated vampire movie lol
[20:09:49] Wanda Sandalwood: haha
[20:10:03] Alice Frostbite: I really like Dakota Fanning as Jane
[20:10:09] Wanda Sandalwood: but i think claudia was very jane-like... she was sweet but evil
[20:10:25] Wanda Sandalwood: i dont mind her as Jane
[20:10:43] Alice Frostbite: Has anyone seen Hide and Seek? Because Dakota was in that and she so reminded me of Jane she was so evil
[20:10:46] Alice Frostbite: or she seemed
[20:10:56] Ina Centaur: nope.. looking her up
[20:10:59] Alice Frostbite: k
[20:11:07] Ina Centaur: yeah so kinda found meyer vampires derivative to anne rice vamps..
[20:11:13] Wanda Sandalwood: mm
[20:11:15] Ina Centaur: lots of similarities, and meyer's is kinda lighter
[20:11:41] Wanda Sandalwood: yeah. i dont actually find that many similarities but ive only seen the movie
[20:12:11] Wanda Sandalwood: but i think louis is very similar to edward in that he doesnt want to be a monster and everything.
[20:12:13] Ina Centaur: http://film.widarsson.se/images/dakota_fanning.jpg
[20:12:13] Alice Frostbite: I found that Louis was really similar to Carlisle in the book o.o
[20:12:43] Ina Centaur: oh, louis never took a human life?
[20:12:51] Ina Centaur: i guess he tried not to.. to the extent where he fed on rats
[20:12:53] Alice Frostbite: He took Claudia's life but
[20:13:01] Ina Centaur: and also that one girl's..
[20:13:11] Ina Centaur: (before they were both burnt due to armand's jealousy..)
[20:13:11] Alice Frostbite: I think he was similar to Carlisle in that he tried to find other ways and he didn't want to kill humans
[20:13:18] Wanda Sandalwood: no, louis took lives, but he tried to find other ways
[20:13:19] Alice Frostbite: Claudia? Or the other one?
[20:13:42] Ina Centaur: basically it's that struggle for virtue in immortality..
[20:13:51] Wanda Sandalwood: yes
[20:13:57] Ina Centaur: louis never tried to kill himself though.. did he?
[20:14:06] Wanda Sandalwood: hm, i'm not sure
[20:14:13] Alice Frostbite: Um no but I think he tried to go for a long time without drinking blood
[20:14:33] Alice Frostbite: in the book at least
[20:14:41] Ina Centaur: edward tried killing himself..
[20:14:47] Ina Centaur: rather, he tried to provoke the vultari to kill him
[20:14:59] Ina Centaur: ... in a rather round-about way
[20:15:04] Wanda Sandalwood: why did carlisle change claudia?
[20:15:07] Wanda Sandalwood: oops
[20:15:10] Wanda Sandalwood: i mean louis XD
[20:15:10] Ina Centaur: --by walking into the sun in the middle of a crowded place
[20:15:14] Ina Centaur: lol!!
[20:15:35] Wanda Sandalwood: haha did he do it coz he wanted company?
[20:15:35] Ina Centaur: hmm i think he wanted a companion other than lestat?
[20:15:37] Wanda Sandalwood: i forget
[20:15:38] Alice Frostbite: See this is where I get confused lol because both Edward and Carlisle remind me of Louis. Jane reminds me of Claudia because I think she got so frustrated with being a child even though she was a woman that she turned evil as an outlet
[20:15:45] Ina Centaur: dunno, he found lestat cold and villainous..
[20:15:49] Wanda Sandalwood: yes
[20:16:10] Wanda Sandalwood: I think Louis is a lot like Carlisle in that he tries not to be a monster, and he also craves companions...
[20:16:14] Wanda Sandalwood: I don't know xD
[20:16:22] Alice Frostbite: No that makes sense
[20:16:22] Ina Centaur: yeah, remember the look she gave Aro when she found out he sent Bella a necklace and never things like that for her
[20:16:42] Alice Frostbite: Yeah she was really PO
[20:16:45] Alice Frostbite: 'ed lol
[20:16:46] Alice Frostbite: oops
[20:16:48] Ina Centaur: i think carlisle resisted companions.. he only turns people who are dying
[20:17:09] Ina Centaur: hmm ok, so i guess louis saved claudia from dying... similar to how carlisle saved edward
[20:17:10] Alice Frostbite: Yeah. Whereas Claudia wasn't dying, she was just without family
[20:17:16] Wanda Sandalwood: thats true... but didnt he change edward because he was dying and because edward had the son like qualities he would have loved in a son?
[20:17:19] Wanda Sandalwood: true
[20:17:25] Ina Centaur: didn't claudia have the plague?
[20:17:28] Alice Frostbite: Well I suppose Claudia would have starved to death because her father was gone and her mother was dead
[20:17:35] Alice Frostbite: No her mother died of the plague though
[20:17:49] Alice Frostbite: She was fine
[20:17:58] Ina Centaur: yeah, and i guess she wouldn't be safe if they didn't turn her
[20:18:05] Wanda Sandalwood: i suppose so
[20:18:06] Ina Centaur: --if louis and lestat tried raising her as a human..
[20:18:28] Wanda Sandalwood: that would not end well. lol
[20:18:36] Alice Frostbite: She would have been a lot less frustrated as a human and she would NOT have died as tragically though
[20:18:41] Ina Centaur: claudia might have been less a tragedy?
[20:18:48] Ina Centaur: yep..
[20:18:49] Alice Frostbite: my thoughts exactly
[20:18:57] Ina Centaur: then again, maybe tragedy was ingrained in her though
[20:19:03] Alice Frostbite: BRB
[20:19:28] Ina Centaur: she did sit by her mother's side crying... probably knowing that she might die as well. she could have just run away or maybe tried the neighbors?
[20:19:41] Ina Centaur: a helplessness in her..
[20:19:49] Alice Frostbite: lol i think all the neighbors were dead
[20:20:03] Alice Frostbite: from the Plague
[20:21:02] Ina Centaur: maybe
[20:21:08] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:21:22] Ina Centaur: so yeah.. any thoughts on Twilight, chapter 6?
[20:21:38] Wanda Sandalwood: which chapter is that?
[20:21:39] Wanda Sandalwood: xD
[20:21:58] Wanda Sandalwood: brb ill look it up :P
[20:22:23] Ina Centaur: scary stories
[20:22:55] Ina Centaur: bella goes to la push with her human friends and (re-)meets jacob
[20:22:57] Alice Frostbite: Chapter 6 was pretty much where Bella found out what the Cullen's were I think so it's a pretty pivotal point in the story
[20:23:15] Wanda Sandalwood: oh. right
[20:23:16] Wanda Sandalwood: lol
[20:23:44] Ina Centaur: yup
[20:23:54] Wanda Sandalwood: yes i think this chapters a pretty big part of the book...
[20:24:23] Alice Frostbite: This is where I started disliking Bella because she pretty much manipulated Jacob into telling her the stories
[20:24:30] Wanda Sandalwood: yeah, same.
[20:24:36] Ina Centaur: i think it's a nice chapter... if you're already in love with edward, there's enough interesting info in here that you're not tortured that ed isn't in this chapter
[20:24:59] Ina Centaur: yeah, you can tell bella is already very obsessed with ed
[20:25:07] Wanda Sandalwood: yes.
[20:25:14] Alice Frostbite: Yeah and she would do anything to find out more about him
[20:25:47] Ina Centaur: well i found it satisfying, as a reader...
[20:25:55] Ina Centaur: bella seems to ask the questions i'd want to ask >.>
[20:25:56] Alice Frostbite: Yes the stories were great
[20:26:32] Ina Centaur: stories were ok-ish.. it's just that i support bella in her obsessiveness with edward - to the point where she'd manipulate others
[20:27:05] Ina Centaur: i guess that's just helpless team edward addiction on my part.. (*anything* for more ed!!)
[20:27:12] Wanda Sandalwood: haha :P
[20:27:38] Alice Frostbite: Hahaha true dat I just would have done it differently. I really dislike manipulative people and I can understand why she did it but it irked me
[20:28:27] Alice Frostbite: I gotta go
[20:28:34] Wanda Sandalwood: Me too :(
[20:29:09] Alice Frostbite: Bye everyone this was great fun :D
[20:29:10] Ina Centaur: hmm ok, would be interesting to see how you'd do it.. but tc!
[20:29:17] Wanda Sandalwood: bye bye :)
[20:48:29] Ina Centaur: /me pokes ji
[20:49:33] Ina Centaur: hum.. i guess that's it for chapter 6's discussion..
[06:30:21] Buffy Munro: TO BE OR NOT TO BE THAT IS THE QUESTION!
[14:54:51] Ina Centaur: c'mon in! |
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