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[19:26:06] Ina Centaur: welcome to the chapter 5 discussion! - Blood Type!
[19:26:22] Ina Centaur: where we find bella faints @ the sight of blood... and she also can *smell* blood...
[19:26:37] Ina Centaur: (and also where bella is separated from her usual human friends when edward signals her over to his table!)
[19:27:44] Ji Ni: hehe
[19:27:44] Ina Centaur: ... so any thoughts?
[19:27:58] Ina Centaur: (other than beanbag chair hopping ;-P_)
[19:28:17] Ji Ni: lol i looked too impatient in that one
[19:28:36] Ji Ni: hrm....well
[19:28:51] Ji Ni: its funny in a way that she faints at blood
[19:29:02] Ji Ni: yet, kinda....too close to the mark
[19:29:10] Ji Ni: cliche in a way
[19:29:23] Ina Centaur: what do you think of the fact that she can smell blood?
[19:29:34] Ji Ni: i dont remember that
[19:29:56] Ji Ni: but i dont see why, her senses are still human
[19:30:00] Ina Centaur: remember when Bella was in the infirmary..
[19:30:02] Ina Centaur: this second kid comes in..
[19:30:08] Ina Centaur: Edward tells her, ok gotta leave..
[19:30:17] Ina Centaur: bella says she knows... she can smell blood
[19:30:30] Ji Ni: isnt that normal?
[19:31:01] Ina Centaur: well, she smelled the guy's blood and it made her sick..
[19:31:13] Ji Ni: maybe it was associative
[19:31:16] Ina Centaur: and also that's why she left immediately...
[19:31:24] Ina Centaur: edward amazed she listened to him for once
[19:31:28] Ji Ni: ya i remember that she bleww out of there
[19:31:40] Ji Ni: and they argued about driving home
[19:31:43] Ina Centaur: buty she basically says "I smelled the blood... that's what makes me sick. It smells like rust... and salt."
[19:31:53] Ina Centaur: (edward reminded her that people can't smell blood o.O)
[19:31:59] Ji Ni: lol
[19:32:28] Ji Ni: still it would seem out of place
[19:32:29] Ina Centaur: was curious..
[19:32:37] Ji Ni: she's still human
[19:32:40] Ina Centaur: yup, i'm not sure about the significance of that..
[19:32:44] Ina Centaur: yup..
[19:32:50] Ina Centaur: i guess that's another thing that sets her aside
[19:32:54] Ina Centaur: from the others..
[19:33:01] Ji Ni: and her prevampire powers are the nullification field
[19:33:07] Ina Centaur: nullification?
[19:33:16] Ji Ni: well ed cant read her mind
[19:33:20] Ji Ni: alice her future
[19:33:29] Ji Ni: she neutralises other vamps powers
[19:34:03] Ina Centaur: hmm i thought hers was a shield..
[19:34:17] Ji Ni: ya, but not smelling blood
[19:34:23] Ina Centaur: ??
[19:34:30] Ji Ni: so i dono, maybe it was a bit tongue in cheek
[19:35:14] Ina Centaur: hmmm
[19:35:38] Ina Centaur: well, there are three things in this chapter that really set bella out from her peers.. and i think it's just the smell blood part that makes her seriously abnormal..
[19:36:00] Ina Centaur: there's the fact that she's basically the only person who faints @ blood
[19:36:06] Ina Centaur: edward singles her out @ lunch
[19:36:26] Ina Centaur: and... she admits she can smell blood...
[19:36:36] Ji Ni: wait, maybe that is what helps her resist the blood craze when she does get turned
[19:36:44] Ina Centaur: maybe..
[19:36:52] Ina Centaur: or maybe she's basically already ready to resist
[19:37:01] Ji Ni: ya :)
[19:37:01] Ina Centaur: most vamps enter vampirehood not having prepared for a year or two
[19:37:25] Tilly Melnik: hi ladies!
[19:37:50] Ina Centaur: hi!
[19:37:56] Ina Centaur: here for twilight?
[19:37:58] Tilly Melnik: yes!
[19:38:03] Ina Centaur: yay!!
[19:38:04] Tilly Melnik: I am finally able to make it
[19:38:04] Tilly Melnik: haha
[19:38:09] Ina Centaur: :-D
[19:38:11] Tilly Melnik: i have been missing them all week
[19:38:29] Ina Centaur: lol that's fine.. nothing like a cozy friday night with twilight literary junkies ;-P
[19:38:43] Tilly Melnik: /me nods
[19:38:58] Ina Centaur: anyway though.. caught up to chapter 5 (or further)?
[19:39:08] Tilly Melnik: oh yes
[19:39:09] Tilly Melnik: haha
[19:39:14] Tilly Melnik: i've read the whole series
[19:39:32] Ji Ni: Hello Tilly :) sorry was grabbing some food
[19:39:40] Ina Centaur: cool! ok so no spoiler alert needed ;-)
[19:39:43] Tilly Melnik: hi Ji :)
[19:39:44] Tilly Melnik: lol no
[19:39:58] Ina Centaur: today's offically chapter 5 analysis.. but we often go beyond the topic
[19:40:29] Tilly Melnik: ok :)
[19:40:30] Tilly Melnik: good
[19:40:40] Ji Ni: maybe another chapter recap for tilly
[19:40:43] Ina Centaur: so we were just talking about how bella can smell blood..
[19:41:03] Tilly Melnik: and what that may mean?
[19:41:14] Ina Centaur: yup..
[19:42:03] Ji Ni: i think she's just that way, its not a special power or something
[19:42:13] Tilly Melnik: yeah I think it is just ironic
[19:42:45] Ina Centaur: coincidence..
[19:42:45] Tilly Melnik: what makes edward stronger causes bella to become weak
[19:42:48] Ina Centaur: i guess..
[19:43:11] Ji Ni: i think it may tie in to later chapters though when she is able to curb the bloodlust so easily
[19:43:46] Tilly Melnik: yes!
[19:43:51] Tilly Melnik: I think so too
[19:44:04] Tilly Melnik: but... remember when she was pregnant she didn't get sick with the blood
[19:44:19] Ina Centaur: her baby helped change her physiology?
[19:44:22] Ji Ni: no, but the child was transmitting that urge if i recall correctly
[19:44:28] Ina Centaur: oh.. didn't they have to fix normal food for her?
[19:44:36] Ina Centaur: she basically had to drink blood for her baby
[19:44:44] Tilly Melnik: ahh true
[19:44:44] Ina Centaur: (and eat normal food for her as well?)
[19:44:45] Ji Ni: yes
[19:45:09] Ji Ni: a new twist on pickles and ice cream hehe
[19:45:29] Tilly Melnik: its just interesting that something that makes her so weak while she is a human will ultimately be her food source
[19:45:31] Ina Centaur: lol right.. i guess it's her baby controlling her mind, to ward off her distaste..
[19:45:38] Tilly Melnik: maybe
[19:45:57] Ina Centaur: i think that's part of vampire physiology though
[19:46:04] Ina Centaur: maybe she likes blood less than other vampires (?)
[19:46:36] Ji Ni: ya i think so
[19:47:31] Ji Ni: was that the first time she rode in ed's car?
[19:47:37] Tilly Melnik: maybe its another one of her gifts
[19:47:47] Ina Centaur: yup
[19:47:53] Ina Centaur: and maybe..
[19:48:17] Ina Centaur: also the first time she's left her friends for edward
[19:48:52] Ji Ni: hehe ya
[19:48:52] Ina Centaur: interesting that in their convo he keeps on telling her he's dangerous
[19:49:00] Ina Centaur: and bella says, "But not bad"
[19:49:13] Tilly Melnik: I find that so romantic for some reason
[19:49:14] Tilly Melnik: haha
[19:49:28] Ji Ni: it is hot, the ultimate bad boy date
[19:49:36] Ina Centaur: and edward replies, "You're wrong."
[19:49:58] Ina Centaur: yeah i really love the moments between them, they're just so perfect!!
[19:50:10] Ina Centaur: bella just has this total trust in edward
[19:50:25] Ina Centaur: anxious, on edge... and, more than anything else, fascinated.
[19:50:42] Tilly Melnik: i wonder where that trust comes from
[19:50:46] Tilly Melnik: its pretty instant
[19:50:55] Ina Centaur: she mentions his looks make her swoon..
[19:51:08] Ina Centaur: i wonder if he's applying his charms on her.. though he claims he's trying not to
[19:51:10] Ji Ni: im not sure it is trust, i think she just dosent care that she is in danger
[19:51:18] Ina Centaur: or maybe it sorta is love at first sight.. fated lovers and all
[19:51:23] Ina Centaur: meyer mythos.. each vampire has one mate for all time (?)
[19:51:26] Marleina Baily: hello?
[19:51:35] Ina Centaur: hi marleina
[19:51:41] Ji Ni: Hello Marleina :)
[19:51:41] Tilly Melnik: hi :)
[19:51:42] Marleina Baily: hello
[19:51:48] Marleina Baily: were you guys at?
[19:51:56] Tilly Melnik: upstairs!
[19:51:57] Tilly Melnik: :)
[19:52:18] Marleina Baily: hi ladies
[19:52:26] Marleina Baily: talking Twilight huh?
[19:52:30] Tilly Melnik: hello!
[19:52:36] Ji Ni: yep :)
[19:52:37] Ina Centaur: yup!!
[19:52:50] Marleina Baily: fun what chapter?
[19:53:10] Ina Centaur: officially, chapter 5... but topic is kinda open too for other books/other chapters
[19:53:14] Ina Centaur: (blood type)
[19:53:15] Tilly Melnik: lol
[19:53:32] Tilly Melnik: would you guys act the same way as bella do you think
[19:53:40] Marleina Baily: ah ok
[19:53:57] Ina Centaur: sorta..
[19:54:04] Ina Centaur: though i'm not sure if i'd be so confronting..
[19:54:17] Ina Centaur: in a way, the way she's so demanding with edward betrays her trust
[19:54:29] Ina Centaur: i mean she sees him as dangerous, and yet she's not really careful with him - and just demands that he tells her things
[19:54:42] Tilly Melnik: /me nods
[19:54:52] Marleina Baily: uh huh
[19:54:58] Marleina Baily: but yeah I'm like that
[19:55:05] Marleina Baily: and I've done it before
[19:55:16] Marleina Baily: fainted at the sight of blood
[19:55:22] Tilly Melnik: I would probably not be so forward
[19:55:28] Tilly Melnik: but edward would reel me in
[19:55:29] Tilly Melnik: ahha
[19:55:44] Marleina Baily: lol
[19:55:54] Ji Ni: meh id go for jasper
[19:56:04] Ina Centaur: lol, but would you think of comic book theories for edward's superpowers?
[19:56:05] Marleina Baily: he is a ctuie too
[19:56:16] Ji Ni: but alice is too cool, so id have to seduce them both
[19:56:22] Ina Centaur: (this is also the chapter where bella reveals she's thinking in lines of bruce wayne/peter parker for ed's superpwrs o.O)
[19:56:31] Tilly Melnik: lol polyamory
[19:56:32] Ina Centaur: yeah alice is so cool!!
[19:56:34] Marleina Baily: oooh
[19:56:40] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:56:45] Marleina Baily: yes he is very super man
[19:56:48] Ji Ni: id go bi for those two
[19:56:50] Tilly Melnik: LOL
[19:56:57] Tilly Melnik: i'm just an edward girl
[19:56:58] Tilly Melnik: haha
[19:57:16] Marleina Baily: me too I'm for sure team Edward
[19:57:32] Tilly Melnik: especially if he had saved my life
[19:57:33] Tilly Melnik: :)
[19:57:43] Marleina Baily: lol oh yeah HUGE plus
[19:57:56] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:57:57] Marleina Baily: oh I wanna ask you guys something
[19:57:57] Ji Ni: lol ya
[19:58:06] Ina Centaur: (*yup i love that car accident chapter)
[19:58:10] Ina Centaur: oh?
[19:58:16] Marleina Baily: something my friend asked me in rl
[19:58:22] Tilly Melnik: i read it over and over
[19:58:23] Tilly Melnik: lol
[19:58:31] Marleina Baily: She thought that bella was like bigger
[19:58:52] Marleina Baily: like cubbier
[19:59:03] Marleina Baily: I guess you could say
[19:59:07] Ji Ni: chubby?
[19:59:31] Tilly Melnik: oh
[19:59:32] Marleina Baily: yeah well lets just say not as skinny as Kristen stewart
[19:59:41] Tilly Melnik: I didn't get that impression really
[19:59:43] Ina Centaur: hmm bella's kinda clumsy
[19:59:47] Marleina Baily: me either
[19:59:48] Ina Centaur: falls on her face often..
[19:59:51] Ina Centaur: but i dunno about bigger..
[20:00:00] Ina Centaur: maybe she has disporportionate parts?
[20:00:02] Marleina Baily: yeah I didn't think so
[20:00:05] Ji Ni: i saw the movie first so bella was always very kristen'ish
[20:00:16] Marleina Baily: Yeah me too
[20:00:33] Tilly Melnik: trust me i'm chubbier in RL and if there was anything talking about that I would have picked it up
[20:00:34] Tilly Melnik: hahaha
[20:00:38] Tilly Melnik: and grabbed on to it
[20:00:40] Tilly Melnik: LOL
[20:00:40] Marleina Baily: she is like really good with like seeing what she is feeling on her face
[20:00:59] Marleina Baily: kinda thing
[20:01:23] Tilly Melnik: I didn't think the movie characters represented exactly what I had in my mind though
[20:01:38] Ji Ni: really?
[20:01:42] Marleina Baily: oh man they are like exact for me
[20:01:45] Ji Ni: what was different?
[20:01:50] Marleina Baily: especially jacob
[20:02:07] Marleina Baily: that dude is like exactly what I pictured
[20:02:10] Ina Centaur: wow..
[20:02:12] Ji Ni: hehe
[20:02:19] Ina Centaur: and edward?
[20:02:21] Tilly Melnik: yeah jacob was the same for me
[20:02:24] Ji Ni: ya the casting was pretty much dead on for me, except edward
[20:02:39] Marleina Baily: edward...yes somewhat
[20:02:46] Ina Centaur: lol...
[20:02:47] Ina Centaur: why?
[20:02:56] Tilly Melnik: I always imagined ed westwick for edward
[20:02:56] Tilly Melnik: lol
[20:03:08] Marleina Baily: who is that
[20:03:10] Marleina Baily: ?
[20:03:15] Tilly Melnik: the guy from gossip girl
[20:03:20] Tilly Melnik: http://images.google.ca/images?sourceid=navclient
[20:03:38] Marleina Baily: oh who plays Nate ?
[20:03:59] Ji Ni: i think he was too much jawline, too jock.....vamps should be more smooth
[20:04:00] Tilly Melnik: no chuck
[20:04:02] Tilly Melnik: lol
[20:04:07] Ina Centaur: hmmm westwick looks too innocent
[20:04:08] Tilly Melnik: yeah thats true
[20:04:18] Ina Centaur: jawline makes you look more like a man though lol
[20:04:24] Marleina Baily: hold on i'm still not sure which guy
[20:04:30] Ji Ni: well ya lol, but he's jawline all over
[20:04:38] Tilly Melnik: http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/1/2007/12/27/320x240/ed_westwick.jpg
[20:04:46] Marleina Baily: actually to me he looks too evil
[20:04:56] Tilly Melnik: he looks dangerous
[20:04:57] Ina Centaur: i think westwick can look sorta preppy like edward should be
[20:05:05] Tilly Melnik: but sexy dangerous
[20:05:06] Tilly Melnik: haha
[20:05:07] Marleina Baily: probably cause he is an ass on gossip girl
[20:05:09] Ina Centaur: but yeah.. he doesn't look like he's wise though.. pattinson sorta looks wise
[20:05:17] Ina Centaur: (remember: he's like 100 years old)
[20:05:25] Marleina Baily: lol
[20:05:47] Marleina Baily: and pattinson plays the piano soo
[20:05:48] Tilly Melnik: i like pattinson
[20:05:58] Marleina Baily: me too
[20:06:09] Ina Centaur: lol!! http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showpost.php?s=22e78dc94a384418b7100ab870e2794d
[20:06:13] Marleina Baily: I think he is a perfect Edward
[20:06:15] Ina Centaur: westwick vs pattinson
[20:06:16] Ina Centaur: vs another guy
[20:06:44] Marleina Baily: I'm so team pattinson
[20:06:47] Marleina Baily: lol
[20:06:52] Ina Centaur: yeah i'd say westwick can def look evil
[20:06:53] Tilly Melnik: HAHA
[20:07:01] Ina Centaur: innocent little boy evil >.>
[20:07:02] Tilly Melnik: anyway he was who i had in my head
[20:07:02] Tilly Melnik: lol
[20:07:34] Marleina Baily: lol
[20:07:43] Ina Centaur: lol so any other alt casting links?
[20:08:04] Tilly Melnik: I dont know who i would cast as bella
[20:08:05] Marleina Baily: pattinson is pake and british and can play the piano and he looks wise
[20:08:11] Marleina Baily: ME
[20:08:13] Marleina Baily: lol
[20:08:16] Tilly Melnik: LOL
[20:08:19] Ji Ni: lol
[20:08:40] Marleina Baily: but they would have to force me off of robert
[20:09:04] Tilly Melnik: (me too)
[20:09:05] Tilly Melnik: haha
[20:09:07] Ji Ni: would have to practice the bedroom make out scenes extensively
[20:09:15] Ina Centaur: lol edward's from chicago iirc
[20:09:16] Tilly Melnik: of course
[20:09:18] Marleina Baily: oh me too
[20:09:27] Ina Centaur: hehe yeah it's kinda cool that pattinson composed his own music for this
[20:09:31] Tilly Melnik: they would have to be perfect
[20:10:24] Marleina Baily: just be like we need to practice that sence again even tho it's alredy been shot
[20:10:32] Ji Ni: yep
[20:10:41] Ji Ni: might be a stage play or something
[20:10:42] Tilly Melnik: we need to practise that scene over dinner
[20:10:43] Tilly Melnik: haha
[20:10:48] Ina Centaur: lol there are lots of RP possibilties on sl ;-P
[20:10:50] Marleina Baily: haha
[20:11:22] Ina Centaur: thinking of building isle esme..
[20:11:33] Marleina Baily: Cool
[20:11:36] Ji Ni: oh cool
[20:11:48] Tilly Melnik: nice
[20:11:53] Tilly Melnik: i wish there was a twilight sim
[20:11:57] Ji Ni: with wrecked bedroom furniture hehe
[20:12:00] Ina Centaur: somewhere in the future though
[20:12:03] Tilly Melnik: lol
[20:12:04] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:12:09] Marleina Baily: esme ilse
[20:12:38] Ina Centaur: ;-D
[20:12:53] Ina Centaur: do you guys write fan fic btw?
[20:13:04] Tilly Melnik: I haven't :)
[20:13:08] Ji Ni: no
[20:13:11] Tilly Melnik: i just read it
[20:13:12] Tilly Melnik: haha
[20:13:25] Tilly Melnik: LOL
[20:13:34] Tilly Melnik: you will never guess what my friend just sent me on MSN
[20:13:36] Tilly Melnik: hha
[20:13:41] Ina Centaur: ?
[20:13:43] Ina Centaur: o.O
[20:13:48] Tilly Melnik: chapters has the edward cullen action figure btw!
[20:13:50] Tilly Melnik: LOL
[20:14:12] Tilly Melnik: chapters is our bookstore
[20:14:21] Marleina Baily: Well yal i have to be up early
[20:14:37] Marleina Baily: and i have eclipse to read
[20:14:42] Ina Centaur: lol!!
[20:14:52] Ji Ni: oh oh, i hope we didnt give anything away
[20:14:54] Ina Centaur: oh you didn't read the whole series yet?
[20:14:57] Ina Centaur: oops x.x
[20:14:59] Tilly Melnik: uhoh!
[20:15:00] Tilly Melnik: haha
[20:15:01] Marleina Baily: yeah i'm not through all of um yet
[20:15:12] Ji Ni: like how edward dies in the end
[20:15:21] Ina Centaur: oh no... we gave isle isme away...
[20:15:21] Marleina Baily: WHA
[20:15:25] Ina Centaur: totally >.>
[20:15:28] Ina Centaur: *esme
[20:15:29] Tilly Melnik: aww yeah that was sag
[20:15:31] Tilly Melnik: *sad
[20:15:36] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:15:41] Ji Ni: hehe
[20:15:42] Ina Centaur: and like how the vultari rule the world now
[20:15:46] Marleina Baily: well see you guys nice to meet you
[20:15:46] Ina Centaur: and jacob got turned into a cat
[20:15:52] Ina Centaur: where like willow from buffy teleported in
[20:15:53] Ina Centaur: o.O
[20:15:55] Tilly Melnik: haha
[20:16:00] Tilly Melnik: I should run too
[20:16:04] Tilly Melnik: this was fun!
[20:16:04] Ji Ni: willow lol omg
[20:16:06] Marleina Baily: lol bye
[20:16:08] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:16:12] Tilly Melnik: I hope I can make it to another one soon!
[20:16:14] Tilly Melnik: take care!
[20:16:27] Ina Centaur: tc! http://twilightSL.com for updates!
[20:16:45] Ji Ni: cya TIlly :)
[20:17:49] Ji Ni: back to us now?
[20:17:55] Ina Centaur: yup i guess!
[20:18:21] Ji Ni: did we cover the whole chapter?
[20:18:27] Ina Centaur: parts of it..
[20:18:31] Ina Centaur: lol did you get to re-read?
[20:18:45] Ji Ni: no its still lent out to a friend :(
[20:19:06] Ina Centaur: :-\
[20:19:19] Ji Ni: would have been perfect to reread it eh?
[20:19:42] Ina Centaur: lol more fun that way i guess
[20:19:48] Ina Centaur: i could regurgitate stuff to you though..
[20:19:54] Ji Ni: cool :)
[20:20:02] Ina Centaur: well bella also tries asking edward to go to la push with them...
[20:20:04] Ji Ni: /me gets a bucket
[20:20:10] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:20:20] Ina Centaur: well edward gives his hunting excuse
[20:20:24] Ina Centaur: and his request to bella..
[20:20:45] Ina Centaur: "... you seem to be one of those people who just attract accidents like a magnet. So... try not to fall into the ocean or get run over or anything, all right?"
[20:20:50] Ina Centaur: (while he's off camping)
[20:21:00] Ina Centaur: lol it's so funny that essential tension between them
[20:21:10] Ji Ni: ah its their first time apart since they became an item
[20:21:22] Ji Ni: and he knows about the wolves too
[20:21:36] Ina Centaur: hmm not yet, i don't think..
[20:21:45] Ina Centaur: right now i don't think sam has become a werewolfe yet(?)
[20:21:54] Ina Centaur: i think it has to do with how he remembers the pact they made with the indians
[20:21:58] Ina Centaur: like a hundred years ago
[20:22:06] Ji Ni: xactly
[20:23:06] Ji Ni: dosent he go anyway to watch from a distance?
[20:23:12] Ina Centaur: interesting that edward says he has to go hunting specifically with emmet..
[20:23:35] Ina Centaur: hmmm not sure..
[20:25:17] Ji Ni: dont him and emmet have a thing for grizzlys?
[20:26:09] Ina Centaur: oh i guess it could be just the grizzlies
[20:27:04] Ina Centaur: btw, do you think there are any jarring weaknesses in the book so far?
[20:27:06] Ina Centaur: (or do you remember)
[20:27:35] Ji Ni: not clearly
[20:27:48] Ji Ni: the thing i thought the most
[20:28:20] Ji Ni: was how it seemed way too obvious that it was the right thing to turn bella several times, yet edward kept throwing a wrench into it
[20:28:36] Ji Ni: edward may have misgivings but he dosent seem stupid
[20:29:02] Ina Centaur: i think it helps shed light on how much of an abomination he is
[20:29:07] Ina Centaur: rather.. how much of one he believes he is
[20:29:17] Ji Ni: ya i guess
[20:29:19] Ina Centaur: so in chapter 5... bella tells him she thinks he's dangerous, but not bad..
[20:29:24] Ina Centaur: ed was like, "you're wrong!"
[20:29:27] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:29:44] Ina Centaur: there's always that balance i guess..
[20:29:47] Ji Ni: if the author wanted the tension of keeping them apart something less contrived liek her being abducted outright by the volturi
[20:29:57] Ina Centaur: and i think the miracle is that this story worked out from the first person POV.
[20:30:38] Ji Ni: it is well done as a narrative
[20:30:39] Ina Centaur: i think voltari isn't until book 2... they're only lightly mentioned in this one when bella asks how edward might do away with himself - i think out of curiosity than seriousness
[20:31:09] Ji Ni: i think thats the strenght of the book actually, you gain a great empathy with bella from that narrative
[20:31:37] Ina Centaur: yup
[20:31:58] Ina Centaur: although i guess you have to be able to relate to her... so perhaps that's why this is less of a bestseller than harry potter?
[20:32:09] Ina Centaur: i.e, some guys might not find it possible to read from the first person pov as a girl
[20:32:24] Ji Ni: i dont know why but ya
[20:32:50] Ji Ni: they certainly bill it as a teengirl book, but i think it is just a good vamp story
[20:33:01] Ji Ni: lots of guys i know liked buffy
[20:33:02] Ina Centaur: hmm have you read vampire chronicles/anne rice?
[20:33:17] Ina Centaur: lol yeah but that might be because it was a tv show.. and buffy was lara croft-ish..
[20:33:20] Ji Ni: oh ya, i loved the anne rice books
[20:33:31] Ina Centaur: did you find meyer vampires derivative?
[20:33:51] Ji Ni: a little bit, particularly how they retain their souls
[20:33:58] Ji Ni: buffy vamps dont
[20:34:08] Ji Ni: and that would wreck the story
[20:35:03] Ina Centaur: unless they're cursed..
[20:35:14] Ji Ni: lol ya
[20:35:19] Ina Centaur: hmm but i meant meyer vamps seem very derivative compared to anne rice vamps..
[20:35:28] Ji Ni: how so?
[20:35:32] Ina Centaur: like the vamps' core conflict has to do with the virtue thing.. similar to anne rice vamps
[20:35:53] Ji Ni: ya thats true
[20:36:22] Ji Ni: human minds adapting to a very different life
[20:36:22] Ina Centaur: i guess her vamps have their unique quirks..
[20:36:40] Ina Centaur: but trying to catch at the part that makes people think the saga is more like fan fic
[20:36:58] Ji Ni: for me it got a little too superhero'ish where each vamp had this particular superpower
[20:37:23] Ji Ni: where anne rice vamps have the same general development path
[20:37:34] Ina Centaur: yeah, the vamps were free to develop their own powers more or less..
[20:37:42] Ina Centaur: in anne rice vamps
[20:37:54] Ina Centaur: and their powers weren't their defining traits
[20:37:58] Ina Centaur: they were deeper characters
[20:38:42] Ina Centaur: hmm so anne rice has her vampires wearing contacts to blend in with humans...
[20:38:50] Ina Centaur: kinda funny the cullens don't do that..
[20:39:04] Ina Centaur: i guess it shows how non-spiritual the non-native american population of forks, washing ton is..
[20:39:09] Ina Centaur: that they wouldn't find anything supernatural about them..
[20:39:30] Ji Ni: thats true
[20:39:52] Ji Ni: but then again just cuz a family is qurky you dont go assuming they are mythical creatures
[20:40:01] Ji Ni: that would be more odd
[20:40:07] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:40:16] Ji Ni: so they explain away a lot
[20:40:52] Ina Centaur: sure i guess
[20:44:03] Ji Ni: man i need some hair
[20:44:25] Ji Ni: think my hair is too simple? i kinda went retro with the non prim hair
[20:44:44] Ina Centaur: hum what style?
[20:44:52] Ji Ni: i want to still keep it short
[20:45:00] Ji Ni: i was thinking alice type hair :)
[20:45:09] Ina Centaur: lol still way too many choices..
[20:45:21] Ina Centaur: here are some brown eyes btw..
[20:45:40] Ji Ni: dont like my eyes?
[20:46:10] Ina Centaur: lol can't really tell..
[20:46:16] Ina Centaur: the pose has your eyes kinda hidden
[20:47:00] Ina Centaur: lol so what kind of short hair..
[20:47:11] Ina Centaur: preppy.. punk...
[20:47:14] Ina Centaur: ...
[20:47:20] Ji Ni: like alice had :)
[20:47:28] Ji Ni: kinda fluffed up
[20:47:31] Ji Ni: wide base
[20:47:41] Ji Ni: but short off the shoulders
[20:48:01] Ina Centaur: try zero style
[20:48:07] Ina Centaur: i'll tp you ;-)
[20:48:21] Ji Ni: cool
[19:18:24] Ina Centaur: hi!

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