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[19:10:33] Ina Centaur: so... hi!
[19:10:57] Ina Centaur: chapter 20
[19:11:07] Ina Centaur: Impatience
[19:11:52] Ina Centaur: basically she's in the hotel room now - they've escaped to Phoenix...
[19:12:03] Ina Centaur: bella gets a call from ed and others that they lost the tracker
[19:12:20] Ina Centaur: alice's vision shows that the tracker would be at a place near bella's mother's house
[19:12:30] Ina Centaur: bella fears for her mother, so she calls her home and leaves a message ther to call the cell
[19:12:52] Ina Centaur: (and we know who got that message!)--irony of this is that nowadays everyone has a cell phone... so bella would be calling her mother on her cell directly
[19:13:09] Ina Centaur: book was written in the transition period before cell phones became everywhere
[19:13:14] Ina Centaur: kind of reminds you of the early angel ep's
[19:13:29] Ji Ni: am i here?
[19:13:29] Ina Centaur: where entire plots were based on angel mis-using a cell phone... or others not having a cellphone
[19:13:33] Ina Centaur: yup!
[19:14:15] Ji Ni: lol ok
[19:15:29] Ji Ni: i liked this part
[19:15:40] Ji Ni: with her in the hotel room with alice and jazz
[19:15:46] Ina Centaur: the phone call was cute where they both say i love you
[19:15:49] Ina Centaur: yup
[19:16:18] Ji Ni: it was neat how it contrasted how vampiric they were, and how human they were, yet there was a very warm touch
[19:16:30] Ji Ni: human she was, rather
[19:17:16] Ina Centaur: ?
[19:17:24] Ji Ni: i wish her mom was in more of the plot she sounds fun
[19:17:42] Ji Ni: holy chat lag
[19:18:43] Ina Centaur: yeah, i guess there's interesting detail.. alice/jasper just stared @ the tv
[19:18:57] Ji Ni: ya
[19:19:02] Ji Ni: how they sat frozen
[19:19:18] Ji Ni: but still alice would let her cry against her
[19:19:32] Ji Ni: even jazz would 'hover'
[19:19:38] Ji Ni: taking care of her
[19:20:00] Ji Ni: really they havent lost much of their humanity at all
[19:20:30] Ji Ni: its more that their humanity is now contained within a highly altered shell
[19:20:42] Ina Centaur: ?
[19:20:53] Ina Centaur: altered?
[19:21:04] Ji Ni: altered from human to vampire
[19:21:08] Ji Ni: their body
[19:21:19] Ina Centaur: oh.. and i think in this chapter or wwas it an earlier one, the analogy of the shark was mentioned - that once they taste blood, it's like how sharks can't resist the blood
[19:21:36] Ji Ni: ya well...you should see me and ice cream
[19:21:36] Ina Centaur: yep. upgraded body. same essence.
[19:21:42] Ina Centaur: ??
[19:22:00] Ji Ni: its rather feeding frenzy like
[19:22:18] Ji Ni: should keep your hands and feet clear
[19:22:28] Ji Ni: we all have hungers
[19:22:48] Ji Ni: primal urges are quite human, but like most things vampiric they are amplified
[19:23:17] Ji Ni: but there isnt really much there that humans dont have but vamps do
[19:23:46] Ji Ni: i cant think of anything actually
[19:23:46] Ina Centaur: ?
[19:23:58] Ina Centaur: hmmm
[19:24:17] Ina Centaur: yeah, true it seems these vamps only evolve their bodies and certain skills, but perhaps not human emo
[19:24:34] Ina Centaur: you notice that edward's eq is basically that of a 17 year old despite his.. real age lol
[19:24:42] Ina Centaur: incidentally did you catch him @ the academy awards?
[19:24:58] Ji Ni: no hehe, did he bite anyone?
[19:25:08] Ina Centaur: he mc'ed the brief segment about romance 2008, and you can also see him sitting behind rorke
[19:25:21] Ina Centaur: lol he didn't.. but he looked like a vamp even w/o makeup
[19:25:32] Ji Ni: cool maybe he is one
[19:25:50] Ji Ni: or he needs to quit the heroin
[19:26:27] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:26:53] Ina Centaur: would be funny.. someone mentioned they'd write letters
[19:26:59] Ina Centaur: to him...
[19:27:05] Ina Centaur: they could write to ask if he were a real vamp lol
[19:27:19] Ina Centaur: i'm guessing a lot of the younger readers have already done that
[19:27:27] Ina Centaur: but yeah it would be interesting if he were..
[19:28:23] Ji Ni: la la la chat lag
[19:28:32] Ji Ni: ok am i back?
[19:29:06] Ji Ni: wow bittorents really put a dent into SL
[19:29:07] Ina Centaur: i see you..
[19:29:46] Ji Ni: ya i bet vamps would have not issues with recruitment
[19:30:20] Ji Ni: movies/books make it out like its would be a thing of horror, meanwhile...pretty much everyone would take the red pill
[19:31:27] Ina Centaur: hmm
[19:31:31] Ina Centaur: so you don't think there's a downside?
[19:31:36] Ina Centaur: i think it would depend on the package
[19:31:49] Ina Centaur: i mean if you were a zombie immortal lusting for blood.. vs someone who can actually function
[19:31:57] Ji Ni: well ya thats true
[19:32:07] Ina Centaur: so many different mythos
[19:32:12] Ina Centaur: no way to know which is certain
[19:32:16] Ina Centaur: so i dunno.. don't be so quick to decide lol
[19:32:43] Ji Ni: well given a meyer or rice style vamp mythos id take it instantly
[19:33:15] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:33:36] Ina Centaur: yeah.. i guess
[19:33:52] Ji Ni: you wouldnt?
[19:35:28] Ina Centaur: dunno..
[19:35:55] Ina Centaur: it seems the point of rice/meyer vamp stories is to tell you - yeah being a vamp is cool, but vamps... all they want to be.. is human
[19:36:06] Ji Ni: eww :(
[19:36:09] Ina Centaur: so their moral of the story: it's kind of the reverse situation once you get there
[19:36:18] Ji Ni: meh not for me
[19:36:22] Ji Ni: i wouldnt look back man
[19:36:35] Ina Centaur: hmm what about your ties to your mortal friends/family
[19:36:59] Ji Ni: eh...they can deal
[19:37:50] Ji Ni: people become lost or die all the time...people make it out like its the hugest thing but its not
[19:37:52] Ina Centaur: lol but could you?
[19:37:58] Ji Ni: hell ya
[19:37:59] Ina Centaur: high chance you can't see them until decades later
[19:38:08] Ina Centaur: yeah true.. guess it depends on your ties
[19:38:09] Ji Ni: i hardly see them now...
[19:38:14] Ina Centaur: you'd be happy to leave the mortal coil?
[19:38:20] Ina Centaur: just, "bye"... and walk away
[19:38:20] Ji Ni: yes
[19:38:23] Ina Centaur: hmm why?
[19:38:51] Ina Centaur: so the other tragedy of meyer/rice vamps.. their eternal loneliness
[19:39:44] Ji Ni: im a lone wolf by nature already
[19:39:58] Ji Ni: i often think the coolest job would be a lighhouse keeper
[19:40:14] Ji Ni: as long as i have high speed internet im good
[19:40:49] Ina Centaur: lol me too
[19:40:50] Ji Ni: looking at the mythos, i could get as much contact with people as i would normaly desire
[19:40:52] Ina Centaur: would be quiet there..
[19:40:57] Ina Centaur: except when global warming causes tsunami's there
[19:41:07] Ina Centaur: lol, but yeah if you ever get a lighthouse i'd love to squat there ;-d
[19:41:13] Ji Ni: hehe
[19:41:20] Ji Ni: ok, we could take shifts
[19:41:36] Ji Ni: well be vamp lighthouse keepers
[19:41:37] Ina Centaur: lighthouse with tsunami basement...
[19:41:52] Ji Ni: can throw the remains to the sharks
[19:41:59] Ji Ni: and the crabs
[19:42:22] Ji Ni: then hang out, play techno and design the latest coolest mmog
[19:42:56] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:43:09] Ina Centaur: sounds like the life lol
[19:43:10] Ina Centaur: really
[19:43:24] Ji Ni: hehe
[19:43:32] Ina Centaur: now.. to somehow get lucky enough to have a vampire shipwrecked nearby..
[19:43:50] Ji Ni: ya thats the trick eh
[19:44:08] Ji Ni: seriously though, to live a life like that is truely unique
[19:44:17] Ji Ni: it would be like bitching that you have to be the mona lisa
[19:44:26] Ji Ni: like....grow up
[19:44:42] Ji Ni: its like being the first to go to mars and bitching about the food
[19:45:09] Ji Ni: louise was a complete suck that had no idea what was laid at his feet
[19:45:20] Ji Ni: even lestat was a child
[19:45:30] Ji Ni: no wonder his mom would have nothing to do with him
[19:45:44] Ji Ni: she in my opinon was a true vampire
[19:45:58] Ji Ni: she left to experience the wonder and majesty of what she was
[19:46:07] Ji Ni: marius too
[19:46:07] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:46:46] Ji Ni: even fixating on the blood thing is really quite childish
[19:47:09] Ji Ni: as humans we slaughter constantly to eat
[19:47:21] Ina Centaur: well, it's the diff between killing animal vs humans
[19:47:22] Ji Ni: stockyards have rivers of blood flowing out of them
[19:48:01] Ji Ni: i dont see much difference
[19:48:25] Ji Ni: none of us have the right to live
[19:48:42] Ji Ni: we can write laws, have police forces and courts to construct that fantasy
[19:48:54] Ji Ni: but really in the world of nature, there is no such thing
[19:49:03] Ji Ni: all things must die so that others may live
[19:49:17] Ina Centaur: you would feel no remorse for killing a person, all other things being equal (and they didn't do you any harm)?
[19:49:35] Ji Ni: well...hehe
[19:49:39] Ji Ni: i would pick my kills
[19:49:47] Ji Ni: like the wolf picking the diseased elk
[19:50:23] Ji Ni: id take out the rapists, the murderers, child abusers, crime lords, sociopath dictators
[19:50:44] Ina Centaur: what if you can't read their thoughts though
[19:50:52] Ji Ni: i dono
[19:51:02] Ina Centaur: "hey guy, did you kill someone?"
[19:51:05] Ina Centaur: "uh... wth?"
[19:51:10] Ji Ni: id have to feel that out, maybe become a cop so i can access police records
[19:51:13] Ina Centaur: "well i gotta know to figure out if i can eat you without guilt or not"
[19:51:33] Ji Ni: or join with blackwater, or csis
[19:51:41] Ina Centaur: "ffs, there are no such things as vampires. so stop believing you can eat me"
[19:51:50] Ina Centaur: "i believe in vamps. and now you've pissed me off. i shall dine on you. muah!"
[19:52:04] Ji Ni: lol
[19:52:26] Ina Centaur: hmm so yeah you should try going for that then
[19:52:33] Ji Ni: but ya, i dont have many issues with predation
[19:52:33] Ina Centaur: join the secretsocieties to get in on this
[19:52:43] Ina Centaur: and, of course, you'll tip me off when you find something ;-P
[19:52:55] Ji Ni: we gotz teh pact
[19:52:57] Ina Centaur: well, what if the reverse issue were to happen to you though..
[19:53:03] Ji Ni: reverse?
[19:53:06] Ina Centaur: would you feel pissed?
[19:53:10] Ina Centaur: vamp dines on you for food
[19:53:10] Ji Ni: no
[19:53:27] Ina Centaur: (kk teh pact is set!)
[19:53:30] Ina Centaur: wow..
[19:53:40] Ji Ni: like diving with sharks, or in the bush around here with grizzlys and stuff
[19:53:40] Ina Centaur: so i guess you're not scared of vamp-ing gone wrong..
[19:53:52] Ji Ni: ive thought alot about being eaten oddly enough
[19:54:12] Ina Centaur: in both rice/meyer vamps, it's a scary process. the vamp could drain you too much in rice - and not feed you the blood soon enough.. in meyer, you might die from pain(?) during the transformation
[19:54:16] Ina Centaur: oh?
[19:54:16] Ji Ni: although i would rather live, i have not ethical/moral grounds to object to natural predation
[19:54:23] Ina Centaur: lol do you have like imagined scenarios in your head
[19:54:49] Ji Ni: well hard not too when youve brushed up against bears a few times in the bush
[19:55:44] Ji Ni: they are just critters, like me
[19:55:50] Ji Ni: lookin for dinner
[19:55:58] Ji Ni: or defending their loved ones
[19:56:27] Ji Ni: just cuz i can do calculus dosent mean i have any special rights, thats just arrogant
[19:56:36] Ji Ni: childish and arrogant
[19:57:25] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:57:32] Ina Centaur: well i think vamps can do calc too..
[19:57:38] Ina Centaur: they'd encounter it sooner or later
[19:57:48] Ina Centaur: they'd probably even get bored enough to go out and get math degrees lol
[19:57:58] Ji Ni: i would :)
[19:58:14] Ina Centaur: well but the thing is, it's dinner at the expense of killing sentient life
[19:58:31] Ji Ni: no issues with that
[19:58:32] Ina Centaur: yeah totally. i would probably spend a huge part of immortality just learning things. (such a nerd. sigh!)
[19:59:04] Ji Ni: even with 'mortal' senses i could pick out the crack dealers, it really isnt that hard
[19:59:50] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:01:33] Ina Centaur: hmm
[20:01:36] Ina Centaur: have you investigated though
[20:01:41] Ina Centaur: to make sure that they really are crack dealers
[20:01:46] Ina Centaur: sometimes people look like.. what they're not
[20:05:32] Ji Ni: just have to watch them for a while
[20:06:00] Ji Ni: hangout on vancouver east side a while it all becomes sadly obvious
[20:06:27] Ji Ni: ive seen girls beaten right on the sidewalk by their pimps
[20:06:42] Ji Ni: mid afternoon, they dont hide
[20:07:03] Ji Ni: could easily feed once a day
[20:07:21] Ji Ni: and frankly you'd be doing the world a favour
[20:12:00] Ji Ni: whoa, am i here?
[20:12:07] Ji Ni: *temporal shift*
[20:12:11] Ina Centaur: yep o.O
[20:12:15] Ina Centaur: wb
[20:12:17] Ji Ni: cool
[20:12:46] Ina Centaur: so yeah.. back to which villains to feed on
[20:12:50] Ina Centaur: so what if the villain has a family?
[20:12:54] Ina Centaur: and they're dependent on him
[20:13:12] Ji Ni: villains are rarely of benefit to their familys
[20:13:23] Ji Ni: way rare
[20:13:32] Ji Ni: and again, people die all the time
[20:13:41] Ji Ni: what about the construction worker that died on the job
[20:13:55] Ji Ni: look up the stats, they die like lemmings across the world
[20:14:02] Ji Ni: nobody seems to bat an eye
[20:15:07] Ji Ni: id rather kill a crack dealer and have the tiny chance it would be bad, overall i know it would be a net gain
[20:17:29] Ji Ni: without the scumbag around the family just might have a chance
[20:25:53] Ina Centaur: hmm
[20:25:59] Ina Centaur: well i guess
[20:26:13] Ina Centaur: you can argue that it's just evolution if predator eats prey...
[20:26:21] Ina Centaur: you're just another source of "natural" (or unnatural) accidents..
[20:27:28] Ji Ni: ya pretty much
[20:27:43] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:27:56] Ina Centaur: lol so how's your vamp stalking so far
[20:28:08] Ji Ni: i totally havent seen that dude
[20:30:49] Ji Ni: so im kinda back to no good stalkee's
[20:32:36] Ji Ni: mmm popcorn
[20:32:42] Ji Ni: see? corn had to die
[20:33:02] Ina Centaur: hm
[20:40:24] Ji Ni: soooo...
[20:40:30] Ji Ni: nice black outfit :)
[20:40:57] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:41:01] Ina Centaur: director's black
[20:41:09] Ji Ni: hehe
[20:41:15] Ji Ni: soo artseh
[20:41:22] Ji Ni: hows the play coming along?
[20:44:15] Ina Centaur: hehe
[20:44:31] Ina Centaur: going decently well. http://blog.slshakespeare.com has details
[20:44:34] Ina Centaur: opens this sunday :-O
[20:47:23] Ji Ni: cool :)
[20:47:41] Ji Ni: isnt illyria the demon that freddy turned into in Angel?
[20:47:59] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:48:10] Ina Centaur: not sure.. don't remember many minor characters in angel
[20:48:20] Ina Centaur: although it'd be cool to watch the entire series and analyze each episode lol
[20:48:27] Ina Centaur: tried that with xfiles this summer
[20:48:44] Ina Centaur: amazingly i actually found some merit in season 9 - was sad to not see doggett in the xfiles movie
[20:49:09] Ji Ni: it think its cool they finally got together
[20:49:39] Ji Ni: but like any good romance they would have to go through a lake of fire first
[20:50:08] Ji Ni: have you seen dollhouse?
[20:52:04] Ina Centaur: nope..
[20:52:10] Ina Centaur: and m and s aren't really together
[20:52:18] Ina Centaur: in the xfiles movie, mulder has basically become a hermit
[20:52:22] Ina Centaur: and scully a doc
[20:52:26] Ji Ni: really? omg
[20:52:27] Ina Centaur: it's kinda sad
[20:52:28] Ina Centaur: yeah..
[20:52:31] Ina Centaur: did you see the movie this summer?
[20:52:37] Ji Ni: no lol, i was scared to
[20:52:39] Ina Centaur: the plot was nothing like xfiles caliber
[20:52:50] Ina Centaur: yeah.. amazingly the thing was just about illegal organ sales
[20:52:54] Ina Centaur: nothing at all about conspiracies
[20:52:55] Ina Centaur: really stale.
[20:53:04] Ina Centaur: and barely a supernatural element too
[20:53:14] Ina Centaur: almost like watching an old tv show - extended too long
[20:53:37] Ji Ni: meh ya
[20:53:55] Ji Ni: the ratings were brutal, so i just didnt want to have the dissapointment
[20:54:04] Ji Ni: id rather just go over the series again
[20:54:47] Ji Ni: dollhouse is the new series by that director
[20:54:58] Ji Ni: has um...whats her name...the evil slayer
[20:55:04] Ji Ni: dark haired
[20:55:08] Ji Ni: as the star
[20:55:24] Ji Ni: although angel turned her to the good side
[20:55:46] Ji Ni: but its not a vamp story, something totally new
[20:56:23] Ji Ni: its like a super exclusive escort agency, they actually imprint the desired 'personality' into the mind of the escort
[20:56:25] Ina Centaur: faith?
[20:56:29] Ji Ni: faith ya
[20:56:34] Ina Centaur: oh wow
[20:56:38] Ina Centaur: awesome
[20:56:43] Ina Centaur: is she likeable in this series though
[20:56:50] Ji Ni: yes :)
[20:56:57] Ji Ni: and omg she's as hot as ever
[20:57:08] Ji Ni: although if it were me id go for a subtle boob job
[20:57:18] Ji Ni: shes a bit um...saggy
[20:57:29] Ji Ni: on an otherwise rock hard body
[20:57:52] Ji Ni: and because she's imprinted differently each show her acting is highy variable now
[20:58:11] Ji Ni: it really is a tough role, come to think of it
[20:58:18] Ji Ni: to really hit it off
[20:58:48] Ji Ni: so she really has a chance to hit it big career wise
[20:59:25] Ji Ni: its cool too, i liked her
[20:59:28] Ji Ni: she was so badass
[20:59:57] Ina Centaur: cool!
[21:00:04] Ina Centaur: anything supernatural?
[21:00:04] Ji Ni: and she gave it up for zander :)
[21:00:08] Ina Centaur: in this show too?
[21:00:10] Ji Ni: no
[21:00:35] Ji Ni: no zander isnt in this show, i was reminiscing about the buffy show
[21:04:35] Ji Ni: weeellll
[21:04:40] Ji Ni: im gonna go watch House
[21:04:53] Ji Ni: i guess i talked your ear off enough hehe
[21:05:09] Ji Ni: cya tomorrow :)
[19:14:08] Ina Centaur: hi! |
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