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[19:01:34] Ina Centaur: welcome to twilight saga discussions...
[19:01:53] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: thank you
[19:02:02] Ina Centaur: today's official topic is book 1, chapter 7 - nightmares.... but it's somewhat open
[19:02:21] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i will be right back need 2 change real quick
[19:02:31] Ina Centaur: kk..
[19:06:39] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: baxck
[19:06:45] Ina Centaur: wb
[19:06:50] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: sorry bout that
[19:07:32] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: so your on chapter 7
[19:07:55] Ina Centaur: yup.. but discussion is open to anything twilight though..
[19:08:09] Ina Centaur: but if you've read chapter 7 recently, could be sorta fun to analyze it in detail
[19:08:35] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: mmm
[19:08:52] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes i rember chapter 7
[19:10:37] Ina Centaur: yup... nightmares
[19:10:46] Ina Centaur: it's another chapter without edward though, kind of depression
[19:11:19] Ina Centaur: i guess it also foreshadows new moon, in a way. but, she's almost more in control of herself, being able to go off into the woods and (somewhat) think about the situation - instead of just being dumped by ed in n.m.
[19:11:59] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: sorry computer frezzing up
[19:12:55] Ina Centaur: no worries...
[19:13:23] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: is that the chapter right after jacob talks to her
[19:13:49] Ina Centaur: yep. it's the sunday after their field trip to the beach
[19:14:12] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: ookay
[19:14:39] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: but she does kno everything about the cullens yet tho right
[19:14:46] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: doesnt*
[19:15:12] Ina Centaur: nope
[19:15:21] Ina Centaur: but she again concludes that edward is not evil...
[19:15:26] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: oonly wat jacob has told her
[19:15:33] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes
[19:15:37] Ina Centaur: she has the nightmare of edward and jacob and mike... and a wolf in the forest
[19:15:46] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol in her words how could he be
[19:15:56] Ina Centaur: and edward beckons to her, with fangs... and she goes to him - and is alarmed when the wolf jumps and tries to kill ed
[19:16:15] Ji Ni: yo
[19:16:18] Ina Centaur: hi!
[19:16:20] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hello JI NI
[19:16:38] Ji Ni: Hello :)
[19:16:40] Ina Centaur: bella's dream seems kind of psychic..
[19:17:01] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes i caught that also
[19:17:23] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: and really come to life when edward is around
[19:17:36] Ina Centaur: yup
[19:17:55] Ina Centaur: do you think she's she hopelesly in love with him?
[19:18:14] Ina Centaur: .. kind of how she'd go to him in her dreams, even after she saw his fangs
[19:18:24] Ina Centaur: and wake up screaming when a wolf attacks ed
[19:19:09] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i kno i dont think she could not be with him it seems to be way to much pain when hes like away for a day
[19:20:30] Ina Centaur: hmm she's more just flustered and disappointed, now, i think...
[19:20:42] Ina Centaur: but yes, she does seem to be rather obsessed with him, already
[19:20:49] Ina Centaur: unable to focus on anything but Ed..
[19:21:19] Ji Ni: isnt that normal for the first infatuation phase of love?
[19:21:31] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: right i mean its only been like a few months that shes known him and they havent even really just had a heart to heart yet
[19:22:00] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes
[19:22:03] Ina Centaur: yup
[19:22:09] Ina Centaur: and yup
[19:22:11] Ina Centaur: i think so..
[19:22:15] Ji Ni: its the vampire thing though, to lure prey
[19:22:28] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: but i think its much more that infatuation
[19:22:30] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol
[19:22:42] Ina Centaur: yeah, i wonder why bella didn't consider that she might be crazy over him - against her will, kind of like dracula's mind control powers
[19:22:45] Ji Ni: like what?
[19:23:02] Ina Centaur: fated love?
[19:23:07] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lmao iv never thought of that
[19:23:09] Ji Ni: eww
[19:23:22] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: like he put a spell on her
[19:23:38] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: and now they can never be apart lol
[19:24:21] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: but i think if he did that it would be easy to just let her go when he wants to that doesnt seem to be the case
[19:24:59] Ji Ni: maybe he cant, its part of him
[19:25:07] Ji Ni: he might be tormented by that too
[19:25:19] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: mmmm
[19:25:23] Ji Ni: knowing that women fall for him simply because of his vamp mojo
[19:25:36] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: that makes seince
[19:26:01] Ji Ni: and since he cant read her mind, he dosent know if its that or not
[19:26:25] Ji Ni: more torment
[19:26:37] Ji Ni: poor guy no wonder he listens to classical
[19:26:50] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: but he doesnt know what he does to her he thinks that she just pays more attention to him because hes different
[19:27:00] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i kno right
[19:27:11] Ina Centaur: hmm
[19:27:24] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:28:29] Ina Centaur: yeah, poor ed. it kind of even outs the playing field in the story with Bella's mind being the only thing Ed can't read
[19:28:45] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: thank God
[19:29:05] Ina Centaur: hmm, so you think edward doesn't know what he does to bella?
[19:29:06] Ji Ni: hehe
[19:29:18] Ji Ni: i dont think so
[19:29:26] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i mean if he could all he would hear is mmmm EDWARDS LIPS mmm EDWRDS touch lol
[19:29:35] Ina Centaur: lol i guess he might think she has mental problems then.. the way her eyes open bigger and (etc) whenever she looks at him
[19:29:44] Ina Centaur: lol!!
[19:29:44] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: and shes just looking at him
[19:30:11] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: it keeps the mysteri alive
[19:30:14] Ina Centaur: hmm so i guess edward's spoiled by being able to read people's minds, such that he can't really understand people by just observing their reaction
[19:30:26] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes
[19:30:30] Ji Ni: i bet ya
[19:30:47] Ina Centaur: lol that's an interesting theory of how omniscience makes you less perceptive
[19:31:07] Ina Centaur: so, (slightly off tangent), God - being omniscient - really has no idea what it's like to be human..
[19:31:11] Ina Centaur: ?
[19:31:57] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yea u rite i guess
[19:32:09] Ji Ni: I think the hypothetical gods perception is on a much greater level than a vampires
[19:32:20] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: but i think he gets more than we kno
[19:32:40] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol
[19:33:52] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:33:56] Ina Centaur: yeah..
[19:34:02] Ina Centaur: so what do you think of the vampire quotes
[19:34:07] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: vampires i believe claim more of the earth in a way that ppl will never but God is a different conspet i think
[19:34:18] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: YES i love then hehe
[19:35:24] Ina Centaur: "Throughout the vast shadowy world of ghosts and demons there is no figure so terrible, no figure so dreaded and abhorred, yet dight with such fearful fascination, as the vampire, who is himself neither ghost nor demon, but yet who partakes the dark natures and possesses the mysterious and terrible qualities of both" Rev Montague Summers
[19:36:00] Ji Ni: what quotes are these?
[19:36:12] Ina Centaur: If there is in this world a well-attested account, it is that of the vampires. Nothing is lacking: official reports, affidavits of well-known people, of surgeons, of priests, of magistrates, the judicial proof is most complete. And with all that, who is there who b elieves in vampires? Rosseau
[19:36:32] Marleina Baily: ok I decided to show
[19:36:33] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yea where are these from
[19:36:46] Ina Centaur: ... they don't seem the best of quotes to me, but i guess Meyer might be using them to convey the cluelessness people have of vamp's. it's the top two quotes on the homepage bella finds on the internet while trying to do her vamp research
[19:37:00] Ina Centaur: she ends up finding a lot of folklore on vamps, none of which seem to fit her case
[19:37:01] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: ?And I knew my vision of the garden of savage beauty had been a true vision. There was meaning in the world, yes, and laws, and inevitability, but they had only to do with the aesthetic and in this Savage Garden, these innocent ones belonged in the vampire's arms. A thousand other things can be said about the world, but only aesthetic principles can be verified, and these things alone remain the same.?
[19:37:12] Ina Centaur: oh that's from anne rice
[19:37:17] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes!
[19:37:19] Ina Centaur: love her savage garden construct.. Lestat's, rather
[19:37:33] Ji Ni: sounds very made up, i dont think there are affidavits of vamps lol
[19:37:36] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hello
[19:37:37] Marleina Baily: yo
[19:37:44] Ji Ni: Hello :)
[19:37:44] Ina Centaur: @ji ni.. there sort of is, but it's inconclusive
[19:37:48] Marleina Baily: I decided to show
[19:37:54] Ina Centaur: and i guess famous people can have their superstitions...
[19:37:56] Marleina Baily: nothing much to do really
[19:37:58] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hehe great!
[19:37:59] Marleina Baily: lol
[19:38:08] Ina Centaur: esp in earlier eras. even nowadays, some famous people (george w bush) still mention things about vampires o.O
[19:38:08] Marleina Baily: no spoilers
[19:38:18] Ina Centaur: no spoilers marleina, we're discussing the quotes in chapter 7 lol
[19:38:26] Marleina Baily: ook ok
[19:38:28] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: mmm what are a fav quotes from the book
[19:38:41] Marleina Baily: Well mine is most def
[19:38:42] Ji Ni: its kind of like 'proof' of ghosts, all stories, no proof
[19:38:42] Ina Centaur: "Be Safe" from Ed.. would be my fave
[19:38:52] Marleina Baily: the lion and the lamb parts
[19:39:08] Ina Centaur: well, i think the quotes are not really meant to be conclusive of vamps.. but just to illustrate how little info there is of real vamps
[19:39:16] Ina Centaur: which allows meyer some freedom in creating her own universe i guess
[19:39:23] Ji Ni: for sure
[19:39:28] Ina Centaur: basically, the assumption is that real vamps keep their story so hidden, it's not widely known even on the net
[19:39:33] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol and it all started in a dream
[19:39:38] Marleina Baily: I have always wondered alot of vampires in rl
[19:39:58] Ji Ni: alot of early vamp legends have them as floating heads lol, not very Ed like
[19:40:01] Ina Centaur: hmm lion and the lamb.. that was cute, but it felt derivative.. bible/cs lewis
[19:40:19] Marleina Baily: yes very
[19:40:21] Ina Centaur: floating heads???
[19:40:22] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes she a moron mom meyers
[19:40:27] Ina Centaur: lol a vamp as a disembodied head
[19:40:29] Ina Centaur: ...
[19:40:34] Ji Ni: yep
[19:40:44] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i would think a lol bible would be in you kno
[19:40:59] Ina Centaur: that's interesting.. maybe that's just symbolism? like how dracula could sort of float out of his body... kinda like his mind floats in air?
[19:41:01] Ji Ni: they fly around and eat babies or something ....yanno, europeans
[19:41:07] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:41:27] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: -EDWARD CULLEN-"YOU'RE EXACTLY MY BRAND OF HEROIN"
[19:41:34] Ina Centaur: yes!!
[19:41:38] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: thats one of my favs'
[19:41:41] Ji Ni: any excuse to dig grandma up and drive a stake through her, its a good time
[19:41:42] Marleina Baily: ah that's a good one
[19:41:44] Ina Centaur: except the tragedy is bella is never brave enough to say that
[19:41:46] Ina Centaur: or did she??
[19:41:51] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hehe
[19:41:53] Marleina Baily: Eddie is a druggey
[19:42:00] Ina Centaur: ed *is* a drug :-O
[19:42:05] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol
[19:42:07] Marleina Baily: HAHA
[19:42:16] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hes that worse kind
[19:42:30] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: he can do almost anything
[19:42:30] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:42:46] Ina Centaur: yeah true.. you'll still love him anyway :-\
[19:43:02] Marleina Baily: psh if he killed me I'd love him
[19:43:06] Marleina Baily: LOL
[19:43:08] Ji Ni: isnt that what love is though, biochemistry gone wild....ancient biological imperatives at work?
[19:43:15] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: love her save her give her everything her needs not that she woul ever ask for anything
[19:43:41] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol oppsides attract
[19:43:47] Marleina Baily: lol yes
[19:43:51] Marleina Baily: yes they do
[19:44:07] Marleina Baily: I know all to well of this
[19:44:29] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: "I Promise to love You Forever- Every Single Day of Forever."
[19:44:44] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: only a vampire can say that lmao
[19:44:57] Ji Ni: it would be nice to feel that way
[19:44:57] Marleina Baily: lol
[19:45:03] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i kno
[19:45:08] Ina Centaur: lol yes
[19:45:13] Marleina Baily: so if I ever hear that from a guy
[19:45:24] Marleina Baily: I'd have to turn him down
[19:45:28] Marleina Baily: and be like NO
[19:45:29] Ina Centaur: unless he were a vamp lol
[19:45:35] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i mean normal love s cool but supernatrul love is the best
[19:45:41] Ji Ni: ya, check for fangs
[19:45:42] Marleina Baily: I can oly hear that from a vampire sorry
[19:45:44] Ina Centaur: well, otherwise he wouldn't be entirely sincere..
[19:45:49] Marleina Baily: LOL I so will
[19:45:52] Ina Centaur: lol and some vamps don't have fangs... meyer vamps particularly!
[19:45:54] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol ur sooo right
[19:46:02] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yep
[19:46:04] Marleina Baily: hey can you open your mouth a little
[19:46:10] Marleina Baily: lol
[19:46:13] Marleina Baily: yeah...
[19:46:15] Ji Ni: lol
[19:46:15] Ina Centaur: "so, like, you don't have fangs... but are you still, like, a vamp?"
[19:46:17] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: they have sharp teeth
[19:46:20] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:46:26] Marleina Baily: or just ask do I seem tasty to you?
[19:46:29] Ji Ni: check for body core temperature
[19:46:34] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:46:43] Ina Centaur: see, some vamps are warm... or can be warm after they've fed
[19:46:46] Ina Centaur: (anne rice vamps)
[19:46:50] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: idk i think the sparkle thing is a bit must lol
[19:46:51] Ji Ni: hrm...
[19:46:52] Marleina Baily: Do you look at me and see like a chicken wing?
[19:47:06] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:47:27] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i mean thats the reson for no sun because ijm shiny
[19:47:27] Ji Ni: serve blood in a wine cup, if he drinks it then it would be a giveaway
[19:47:36] Ina Centaur: "how old *are* you anyway?"
[19:47:42] Ina Centaur: "oh, so... you're like a new vamp?"
[19:47:43] Marleina Baily: lol
[19:47:57] Ina Centaur: "huh? i'm not vamp. it was just a figure of speech - i don't mean forever like for reals... "
[19:48:06] Marleina Baily: lol
[19:48:09] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol
[19:48:10] Marleina Baily: haha
[19:48:20] Ina Centaur: hehe
[19:48:22] Ji Ni: forever untill i get this really bad need for a midnight snack....
[19:48:30] Marleina Baily: so what chapter are we on?
[19:48:37] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: Well, Gran You Might Have Noticed That My Boyfriend Glitters. It's Just Something That He Does in the Sun. Don't Worry about It
[19:48:39] Ina Centaur: chapter 7 - nightmares
[19:48:54] Marleina Baily: ah oh ok
[19:49:04] Ina Centaur: basically bella thinks about what jacob told him about the vampire myths of his tribe... and bella does her research and goes out for a long walk in the woods
[19:49:20] Marleina Baily: ok
[19:49:28] Marleina Baily: i know that exactly
[19:49:41] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: poor bella its not enough that she has to deal with this stuff on a daily basic but now its in her dreams to lol
[19:49:42] Marleina Baily: that's something i would do
[19:49:54] Marleina Baily: except I'd probably get lost
[19:49:55] Ina Centaur: "Grams, my boyfriend wears makeup... with minerals. Hence the glitter! Isn't he a beau? :-D"
[19:50:05] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hahahahahahaa
[19:50:12] Marleina Baily: haha
[19:50:17] Ina Centaur: "No, grams... it *doesn't* wash right off.. It's minerals. It's waterproof!"
[19:50:36] Ina Centaur: hehe
[19:50:44] Marleina Baily: I'd be like hey mam my bf sparkles aint that cool?! she would be like OH I wanna see!!!
[19:51:11] Ina Centaur: lol and mam asks what makeup does your bf wear o.O
[19:51:32] Marleina Baily: and can she get it at the mall
[19:51:50] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: When You Can Live Forever, What Do You Live For was that in the book?
[19:52:00] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: or just apart of he movie
[19:52:01] Ji Ni: its a new body powder by drakkar, called drakkar bright
[19:52:13] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol
[19:52:17] Ina Centaur: i think that was the movie..
[19:52:28] Marleina Baily: yeah i think so too
[19:52:31] Ina Centaur: but that's kind of edward's question - or the question that drives his character
[19:52:39] Marleina Baily: I can check lol
[19:52:43] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yea i dont remember it in the book
[19:52:51] Ina Centaur: what's drakkar?
[19:52:51] Marleina Baily: I was bad and I bootlegged the movie
[19:53:03] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol me too
[19:53:07] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: twice
[19:53:09] Ina Centaur: ooh :-O
[19:53:10] Marleina Baily: but I will buy it so that makes me feel a whole lot better
[19:53:12] Ji Ni: drakkar is a men's product line
[19:53:18] Ina Centaur: well.. i haven't seen the movie yet.. and won't see it till the dvd comes out
[19:53:19] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: got two different versions
[19:53:27] Ina Centaur: i like the cast though..
[19:53:29] Marleina Baily: OOOh SHAMEE
[19:53:30] Ina Centaur: most of them..
[19:53:34] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes great cast
[19:53:48] Ina Centaur: well, i'm not ready to have my view of twilight mixed up by a movie that's too short for its own good
[19:53:51] Marleina Baily: Man idn't want Dakota fanning as jane
[19:53:57] Ina Centaur: so.. i'm going to watch the movie for the first time with *all* deleted scenes on the dvd
[19:53:57] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i just think emmit could have beenn bigger
[19:54:12] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: I HAYTE THAT
[19:54:24] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: I DONT WANT HER AS JANE
[19:54:29] Marleina Baily: hate what? the dakota thing
[19:54:32] Marleina Baily: oh yeah
[19:54:35] Ina Centaur: lol marleina, who do you want as jane?
[19:54:36] Marleina Baily: me nither
[19:54:40] Marleina Baily: Idk
[19:54:42] Ina Centaur: and omg dakota is cast as jane now?
[19:54:43] Marleina Baily: not her
[19:54:44] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: SHE NEEDS TO BE FAR AWAY FROM MY TILIGHT
[19:54:47] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:54:55] Ina Centaur: yeah i think emmet could have been bigger..
[19:54:56] Marleina Baily: LOL that's what IMDB says
[19:54:57] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: TWILIGHT
[19:55:06] Ina Centaur: it would be cool to get vamps from other movies playing volturi
[19:55:07] Ji Ni: scary
[19:55:14] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: IT SAYS REUORED TIRE
[19:55:18] Ina Centaur: :-O
[19:55:28] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: if she is in it i will be mad
[19:55:32] Marleina Baily: hmmm I really dont like that
[19:55:35] Marleina Baily: me too
[19:55:47] Marleina Baily: and they had better keep jacob
[19:55:51] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:55:59] Marleina Baily: that dude is so perfect
[19:56:00] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: there not suppose to be huge stars in a film like this
[19:56:00] Ji Ni: ya jacob was well casted
[19:56:01] Ina Centaur: hum... somehow make him look like he's 25
[19:56:08] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: this film makes stars
[19:56:13] Ina Centaur: yup
[19:56:21] Ina Centaur: well pattinson was sorta a star before this
[19:56:26] Marleina Baily: I love the guy that is jacob I just want to like hug him one day
[19:56:35] Ina Centaur: lol.. marleina = team jacob?
[19:56:42] Marleina Baily: lol no
[19:56:48] Ji Ni: dang thought we had one there
[19:56:50] Marleina Baily: I'm who knows
[19:56:54] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: well i dont kno he needs to be bigger once they film new moon
[19:57:02] Marleina Baily: I'm team i like all of um
[19:57:10] Marleina Baily: lol
[19:57:14] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: in the end he gets tio be like 6'7
[19:57:19] Marleina Baily: except that Emmet guy
[19:57:30] Marleina Baily: I dont like him
[19:57:37] Marleina Baily: he is just eww
[19:57:42] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: Dialynne = team edward!
[19:57:47] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hehe
[19:57:58] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:58:01] Ina Centaur: yeah.. team edward
[19:58:17] Ina Centaur: i mean.. i like jacob... but if edward died and there was just jacob, i'd probably jump off the cliff with bella
[19:58:18] Ji Ni: im team bella, id give up men for kristen
[19:58:21] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: im so in love with him its not even funny
[19:58:27] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol
[19:58:33] Marleina Baily: HAHA
[19:58:34] Ina Centaur: lol ji!! o.O
[19:58:37] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: you go girl!
[19:58:42] Marleina Baily: lol I'm team Edward
[19:58:43] Ji Ni: o.O
[19:58:46] Marleina Baily: but...
[19:59:08] Marleina Baily: the chick that is alice is really pretty
[19:59:27] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: id kill 4 edward but i would have to cuz hes a vamplol
[19:59:32] Ina Centaur: lol
[19:59:39] Marleina Baily: lol
[19:59:46] Marleina Baily: eh...
[19:59:53] Ji Ni: kil grizzlys anyway
[20:00:12] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: well ppl to hahaha
[20:00:22] Ji Ni: he dosent kill people though
[20:00:28] Marleina Baily: I think that dude who plays um jasper is pretty cool...but in the movie i just want to like punch him in the face
[20:00:29] Ina Centaur: yeah, he's a good vamp!
[20:00:31] Ina Centaur: o.O
[20:00:32] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yea i kno ..
[20:00:40] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:00:50] Marleina Baily: lol he just looks so sad
[20:00:57] Ina Centaur: yeah.. emmett and rosalie looked more flaky with back makeup than gorgeous..
[20:01:00] Ji Ni: ya hard to imagine him as a battle vamp
[20:01:04] Ina Centaur: but i guess that's movie technique to make bella/edward look hawt
[20:01:09] Marleina Baily: and I just want to hit him and say like dude grows some balls
[20:01:10] Ina Centaur: *back=bad
[20:01:12] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: but meyers said she had a dream that Edward came to her and was like you got it wrong i DO suck ppls Blood lmao
[20:01:31] Marleina Baily: lol
[20:01:34] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: she said she tho that he was gona kill her til she woke up
[20:01:34] Ina Centaur: yeah, supposedly the Confessions chapter was the first one she wrote..
[20:01:39] Ina Centaur: she had a dream of a sparkly vampire and a girl
[20:01:50] Ji Ni: seriously?
[20:01:50] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yep
[20:01:55] Ina Centaur: yeah, the second half of that chapter got a bit weird...
[20:01:59] Ji Ni: i need dreams like that
[20:02:08] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hehe dont we all
[20:02:10] Ina Centaur: when ed became out of character almost, showing off his powers in a scary way
[20:02:27] Ina Centaur: hmm to remember dreams like that? dreams are so easily forgotten..
[20:02:36] Marleina Baily: Alright ladies...I have eclipse to read
[20:02:41] Marleina Baily: lol
[20:02:50] Ji Ni: have fun Marleina :)
[20:02:50] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol
[20:02:52] Marleina Baily: I'm going to go
[20:02:58] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: its really good
[20:03:01] Marleina Baily: nice to see yal again
[20:03:10] Ina Centaur: kk tc marleina!
[20:03:29] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: see yah
[20:03:29] Marleina Baily: bye
[20:03:34] Ji Ni: isnt it weird though how in the end jacob becomes a unicorn?
[20:03:58] Ji Ni: kekeke
[20:04:05] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol WHAT!
[20:04:17] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: ur crAZY HEHE
[20:04:23] Ji Ni: just playing games with marleina hehe
[20:04:54] Ji Ni: we told her last time ed dies in the end, she was so mad
[20:05:06] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: LOL I CANT REMEMBER ANY MORE CHAPTER 7
[20:05:07] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: LOL
[20:05:14] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: that was mean
[20:05:19] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lazo
[20:05:23] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lmao
[20:05:24] Ji Ni: hehe :)
[20:05:49] Ina Centaur: lol...
[20:05:53] Ina Centaur: reread it? o.O
[20:05:59] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: the ending of new moon is the best
[20:06:01] Ina Centaur: and omg i thought jacob became magneto
[20:06:20] Ina Centaur: but yeah that's so cool, he could be a werecorn ... or shapeshifters could figure out how to grow horns from their foreheads o.O
[20:06:30] Ji Ni: sweet :)
[20:06:37] Ina Centaur: yeah chapter 7 was one of those reaction chapters that you just want to go thru quickly...
[20:06:51] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: and the the first 7 chapters of breaking dawn
[20:06:52] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes
[20:06:55] Ina Centaur: i guess you get to know more about bella's character.. that she knows she should be spooked by edward - and should avoid him - but she doesn't want to
[20:07:02] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: chaper 7 i kno i read fast
[20:07:08] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: reed
[20:07:30] Ina Centaur: lol the first 2/3 of breaking dawn were kinda fan ficly.. you know all the characters already and it's just nice to see them all happy
[20:07:31] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol y did i put my last name
[20:07:44] Ina Centaur: and it seemed the worst that could happen could be bella's pregnancy going wrong..
[20:07:45] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes
[20:07:56] Ina Centaur: and then suddenly out of nowhere, boom, voltari...
[20:08:01] Ina Centaur: and everyone gatheres to fight them...
[20:08:02] Ina Centaur: (wth)
[20:08:08] Ina Centaur: and then everyone leaves when the voltari wimp out
[20:08:08] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hehe
[20:08:09] Ina Centaur: >.<
[20:08:24] Ji Ni: its not a very good ending i think, kinda patched together
[20:08:26] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: its was 10 Cullens
[20:08:41] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: how many were virtari
[20:09:06] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: midnight sun was gonna be beautiful
[20:09:16] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: be someome Fucked up
[20:09:29] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: but
[20:09:29] Ina Centaur: heh yeah lol
[20:09:44] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i read the first 12 chapters of it
[20:09:57] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: he loves bella more than she loves him
[20:10:20] Ji Ni: really? thats cool
[20:10:29] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: so sweet
[20:10:35] Ji Ni: they kinda focus on bella's love would be interesting to see his side
[20:10:50] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i kno
[20:11:16] Ina Centaur: yup.. would have been cool if book 1 had change in perspective..
[20:11:26] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: :(
[20:11:32] Ina Centaur: but i guess that might make the novel feel less like the crazy female reader is living it
[20:11:35] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: im depressed now
[20:11:40] Ji Ni: the edward diaries:
[20:11:47] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: AHHHHHHH
[20:11:53] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:11:55] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i want that so bad
[20:12:07] Ji Ni: brood brood brood, compose a lulaby.....brood.....why do i exist....
[20:12:13] Ina Centaur: hehe
[20:12:22] Ina Centaur: poor guy :-\
[20:12:27] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i mean almost every girl can be a bellla but noone can be Edward Cullen
[20:12:38] Ina Centaur: yeah most guys are scum >.>
[20:12:46] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: right
[20:13:21] Ji Ni: ya, kinda
[20:13:24] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol no more like brood broob bella's blood ...compose lullaby ..brood lol
[20:13:37] Ji Ni: lol
[20:14:16] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i think the sadest thing was that hes been alone for almost 100 years
[20:14:56] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: andi was suprised that he was a virgin lmao
[20:14:59] Ji Ni: you'd think that would almost make you crazy
[20:15:05] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: all that dazle
[20:15:15] Ina Centaur: lol..
[20:15:16] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i kno
[20:15:22] Ina Centaur: i guess he's super-chaste..
[20:15:27] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: haha
[20:15:38] Ji Ni: thats another plausability error, a 19 yr old guys, virgin for 100 yrs? yeeeah, right.....
[20:15:41] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i mean hes just to perfect
[20:15:54] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: haha
[20:15:54] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:15:59] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: 17 but close
[20:16:03] Ina Centaur: maybe carlisle really got to him..
[20:16:08] Ina Centaur: yeup, he's 17
[20:16:11] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: really he must have
[20:16:24] Ina Centaur: well, maybe he was actually gay until he met bella..
[20:16:27] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: CWA
[20:16:30] Ji Ni: its very weird, maybe its a vampire thing
[20:16:35] Ina Centaur: hmm what about when he rebelled against carl and started hunting human (villains)
[20:16:39] Ina Centaur: cwa?
[20:16:58] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: CARLISLE WOULD APPROVE
[20:17:01] Ji Ni: lol
[20:17:20] Ji Ni: i wonder if esme gets any
[20:17:26] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:17:26] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: YES
[20:17:34] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i think so
[20:17:39] Ina Centaur: ok that is so the new thing. CWA
[20:17:52] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: carlisle cant be at work all the time
[20:17:52] Ina Centaur: CWA Rosalie though..
[20:17:56] Ina Centaur: so why didn't ed rosalie = ?
[20:17:56] Ji Ni: cwa!
[20:18:19] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: she was to vane for edward
[20:18:24] Ji Ni: she's a bitch
[20:18:31] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: she would have to be selfless like bella
[20:18:33] Ina Centaur: yeah i guess and she went into her revenge state.. maybe that disgusted edward
[20:18:43] Ina Centaur: i wonder if he rebelled in part because of how C let R hunt down her enemies
[20:18:52] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hhaa
[20:19:17] Ina Centaur: i guess and E could read her thoughts..
[20:19:23] Ina Centaur: making R seem way less human
[20:19:32] Ina Centaur: assuming E's goal in life is to become more human (if not human again)
[20:19:34] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol did you see kristen smoking some wed
[20:19:38] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: weed
[20:19:44] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: outside her house
[20:19:47] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lmao
[20:19:56] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: CWNA
[20:19:58] Ji Ni: cool :) id light it for her
[20:20:01] Ina Centaur: ??
[20:20:04] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: LOL
[20:20:30] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: SHE WAS INTO IT TO
[20:21:01] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i thought it was funny
[20:21:13] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: what would edward think
[20:21:27] Ji Ni: he needs something like that to chill
[20:21:34] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: or he might just let her get away with
[20:21:44] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yea really
[20:22:25] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hey im gona be a vamp
[20:22:35] Ji Ni: cool :)
[20:22:36] Ina Centaur: EWA?
[20:22:49] Ina Centaur: EdWA (not Esme)
[20:22:52] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: but i still have like 89 percent huminity
[20:23:00] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hehe
[20:23:09] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:23:09] Ji Ni: ah bloodlines
[20:23:17] Ina Centaur: or.. he might be jealous that she could trip and he can't
[20:23:22] Ina Centaur: oh you play bloodlines?
[20:23:22] Ji Ni: seems liek everyone is leaving bloodlines
[20:23:31] Ina Centaur: i got a hud back when it started but didn't really get into it
[20:23:40] Ina Centaur: tiny empires anyone?
[20:23:41] Ji Ni: ya i just started up a couple of weeks ago
[20:23:49] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: well that cwa thing is like ppl who give blood some places give out CWA tshirts
[20:24:00] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yesterday for me
[20:24:11] Ji Ni: lol
[20:24:26] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: who wants to bit me lol
[20:24:48] Ji Ni: im staying human, i wana be a blood doll
[20:25:02] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: oo whats that
[20:25:09] Ina Centaur: lol that's so cool!!
[20:25:13] Ina Centaur: i would give blood for a CWA shirt!!
[20:25:22] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i kno righ t
[20:25:30] Ji Ni: you stay human, give blood, and restore your humanity with apples
[20:25:42] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: wow
[20:25:42] Ina Centaur: apples?
[20:25:45] Ina Centaur: is that a new bloodlines thing?
[20:25:55] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: were do you get the apples?
[20:26:06] Ji Ni: there is an orchard at their sim
[20:26:13] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i thought wormwood was all that could change you back
[20:26:14] Ji Ni: 14 bux an apple though
[20:26:22] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: not bad
[20:26:25] Ji Ni: it dosent restore your soul
[20:26:37] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: 14L$ ?
[20:26:42] Ji Ni: you stay kind of between a human and a revenant
[20:27:07] Ji Ni: ya 14L per .25 humanity restored
[20:27:08] Ina Centaur: wow..
[20:27:16] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: cool
[20:27:36] Ji Ni: ya no money in selling blood though, that was sorta my plan
[20:27:49] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: do you have a LM
[20:27:52] Ji Ni: so many are quitting they are dumping their blood on sales
[20:28:02] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: oo
[20:28:09] Ji Ni: lm to bloodlines?
[20:28:42] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: how do i get protection it says i have 0
[20:28:55] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: the apples
[20:29:01] Ji Ni: protection? im not sure what that is
[20:29:05] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: iv never seen them in bloodlines
[20:29:49] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: o thank you :)
[20:29:55] Ji Ni: np :)
[20:30:10] Ina Centaur: o.O
[20:30:28] Ji Ni: are you bit?
[20:30:37] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: ?
[20:30:45] Ji Ni: you've given your soul?
[20:31:04] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: well i have a liege is that the same
[20:31:19] Ji Ni: no
[20:31:23] Ji Ni: thats a clan thing
[20:31:46] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: how do you kno if you givin your soul?
[20:32:07] Ji Ni: you would have been bit hehe
[20:32:13] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol
[20:32:15] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes
[20:32:24] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i was bit
[20:32:29] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: two days ago
[20:32:43] Ji Ni: ya you were bit by Cinnamon
[20:32:46] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i was in limbo until yesterday
[20:32:52] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: Yep
[20:33:01] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: she bought me my HUD
[20:33:12] Ji Ni: so as long as you dont drain your humanity to zero, you will stay human
[20:33:30] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes
[20:33:48] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol now i want to HUNT
[20:33:54] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lmao
[20:33:55] Ji Ni: hehe
[20:34:42] Ji Ni: do you roleplay much?
[20:34:56] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yes some
[20:35:01] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: you ?
[20:35:14] Ji Ni: i love it, but i have yet to see anyone in bloodlines rp
[20:35:30] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: realy i wonder why
[20:35:42] Ji Ni: the other day some guy in a chipmunk micro av was riding around the castle on his micro harley
[20:35:51] Ji Ni: he was a clan lord
[20:35:51] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hahaha
[20:36:02] Ji Ni: so its kinda hard to take it seriously
[20:36:14] Ji Ni: i think its largely a way to make money
[20:36:24] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yea
[20:37:11] Ji Ni: more often i rp capture stalker type stuff
[20:37:23] Ji Ni: abduction torture lol
[20:37:29] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: cool lmao
[20:37:34] Ji Ni: its wild
[20:37:58] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: you lil freak you ;)
[20:38:11] Ji Ni: even then though the guys are so nice, they are all asking permission in pm and stuff
[20:38:29] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hehe
[20:38:46] Ji Ni: here i am in tattered schoolgirl outfit, handcuffed to a dumpster in a sim thats clearly marked as rape RP
[20:38:53] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: is it easyer to bite guys than girls
[20:38:56] Ji Ni: and they are like ....so....come here often?
[20:39:05] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: omg lol
[20:39:25] Ji Ni: im like omg im rolling a male char and showing them how its done ffs
[20:39:34] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: tryin to be all polite
[20:39:40] Ji Ni: lol ya
[20:40:20] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: kno any good huntin spots?
[20:40:20] Ji Ni: neway, back to twilight hehe
[20:40:27] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol
[20:40:29] Ji Ni: for bloodlines
[20:40:32] Ji Ni: not sure
[20:40:47] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yea bloodlines
[20:41:24] Ji Ni: you dont get blood from biting people without huds right?
[20:41:43] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: naw
[20:42:00] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: how do you get blood?
[20:42:00] Ji Ni: that sux
[20:42:05] Ji Ni: buy it lol
[20:42:10] Ji Ni: from me :)
[20:42:13] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol were ?
[20:42:23] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: really you sellit
[20:42:33] Ji Ni: im a blood doll , ya
[20:42:53] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol how much do you sell it for
[20:43:10] Ji Ni: see my pics
[20:43:16] Ji Ni: picks rather
[20:43:49] Ji Ni: i had them way higher, but nobody was buying
[20:44:01] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: aww cool
[20:44:07] Ji Ni: so i put them at the same price as buying stock from bloodlines
[20:44:52] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: how can you tell the differenc bettween a small bite and a spike?
[20:45:08] Ji Ni: you have to buy a spike to take that much
[20:45:31] Ji Ni: normal biting is usually the 3% with a random 5% thrown in once in a while
[20:45:51] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: o i see so the person just pays and bites
[20:45:53] Ji Ni: you can tell when you bite though, there is a system message
[20:46:00] Ji Ni: yep
[20:46:24] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: did you set this up ur self?
[20:46:34] Ji Ni: ya pretty much
[20:46:40] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i mean did you make this pick
[20:47:03] Ji Ni: no thats bloodlines standard pic when you set a pick at their sim
[20:47:15] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: o okay cool
[20:47:33] Ji Ni: id do something cooler, prolly more bondage
[20:47:41] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: but how do you get blood?
[20:48:01] Ji Ni: how do i restore blood?
[20:48:07] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i mean your a doll so were does yours come from
[20:48:09] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: yea
[20:48:14] Ji Ni: i buy apples to eat
[20:48:30] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: that restore blood also
[20:48:40] Ji Ni: they restore humanity
[20:48:49] Ji Ni: but not for vampires vital blood
[20:48:56] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: o
[20:48:59] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: i see
[20:49:27] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: sorry if i seem real slow on this stuff im real new to this
[20:49:42] Ji Ni: not a problem, i was all new to it just recently hehe
[20:49:51] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: :)
[20:50:16] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: Ina you have been quite
[20:50:30] Ina Centaur: hehe yep.. not really into bloodlines
[20:50:39] Ina Centaur: i have a hud though.. never really got how to play
[20:50:43] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: lol arent you a player
[20:50:46] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: o
[20:51:31] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: o i gotto go girls work calls lol
[20:51:40] Ina Centaur: kk tc dia!
[20:51:58] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: bye !
[20:52:03] Ji Ni: cya Dialynne :) call me if you get thirsty hehe
[20:52:13] Dialynne Ceriaptrix: hehe i will lmao
[20:53:21] Ji Ni: would be nice to find a real vamp rp thing
[20:53:30] Ji Ni: or a MMOG for vampires
[20:53:49] Ina Centaur: yep.. was hoping to create one
[20:54:25] Ji Ni: cool :)
[20:54:36] Ji Ni: a sim? or mmog?
[20:54:47] Ina Centaur: well, a sim... a mog
[20:54:49] Ina Centaur: sim = mog i guess
[20:54:55] Ina Centaur: until they get rid of avatar limits..
[20:55:13] Ji Ni: i mean mmog as in a full blown massive multiplayer like warcraft
[20:55:34] Ina Centaur: hmmm
[20:55:44] Ina Centaur: Vampirecraft?
[20:55:45] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:55:54] Ji Ni: lol
[20:55:56] Ina Centaur: instead of orcs vs humans... werewolves vs Lycans o.O
[20:55:59] Ina Centaur: erm i mean
[20:56:01] Ina Centaur: vamps vs Lycans
[20:56:07] Ji Ni: id love to be on that design team, id make it kick total ass
[20:56:19] Ina Centaur: lol sure what are your ideas
[20:56:44] Ji Ni: well i guess i shouldnt say lol, just in case
[20:57:04] Ji Ni: but it would be intense, and quite plausible
[20:57:19] Ji Ni: alot of mmogs nowadays are kidzy
[20:57:33] Ji Ni: soft fuzzy happy rules that are all fair
[20:57:51] Ji Ni: pg code of conduct
[20:58:01] Ji Ni: no way man, id shoot for XXX rating right away
[20:58:07] Ji Ni: then i can do anything i want
[20:58:22] Ina Centaur: lol
[20:58:30] Ina Centaur: but yeah what would it be about
[20:58:36] Ji Ni: make it harsh, bloody, violent, sexy and ruthless
[20:58:39] Ina Centaur: other than xxx...
[20:58:46] Ina Centaur: lol kinda like RP in Midian
[20:59:10] Ji Ni: sorta
[20:59:26] Ji Ni: it would have urban and couuntryside areas
[20:59:35] Ji Ni: you start out human, no exceptions
[21:00:01] Ji Ni: prolly have to farm to eat, you would have to eat to live hehe
[21:00:07] Ji Ni: or hunt
[21:00:38] Ji Ni: sell grains and wood and irons in the city, city craftsmen forge those into tech
[21:00:46] Ji Ni: thats the next level get a job in the city
[21:01:08] Ji Ni: citys would have property you can own and start guilds
[21:01:27] Ji Ni: so pretty basic mmog at that point
[21:01:33] Ji Ni: then id seed one vampire
[21:01:43] Ina Centaur: lol start out normal, vamps enter afterwards?
[21:01:49] Ji Ni: ya
[21:01:52] Ina Centaur: interesting
[21:02:15] Ji Ni: you have to set it up so a balance is maintained in the game
[21:02:23] Ji Ni: otw everyone ends up vampire
[21:02:34] Ji Ni: like their sleeping in the day
[21:03:02] Ji Ni: that would be tricky and would require monitoring
[21:03:19] Ji Ni: but humans have the advantage of having a priest class
[21:03:32] Ji Ni: who can consecrate ground, and bless holy water
[21:04:01] Ji Ni: likewise vampires can curse ground in their territories, and use mind influences
[21:04:08] Ji Ni: so it balances out
[21:04:43] Ji Ni: but beyond that i have to kieep it to myself
[21:04:50] Ji Ni: i plan it out all the time hehe
[21:04:58] Ji Ni: id love to be a mmog dev
[21:05:14] Ina Centaur: well
[21:05:17] Ina Centaur: the hard part is financing it
[21:05:24] Ina Centaur: or to make sure it can continue self-sufficient
[21:05:33] Ji Ni: ya
[21:05:39] Ina Centaur: have you tried playing vamp masquerade?
[21:05:42] Ji Ni: that is the trick, they are expensive to program
[21:05:55] Ji Ni: no never, ive heard alot about it though
[21:06:10] Ji Ni: well not alot, just that it was hella fun
[21:07:15] Ji Ni: did you?
[21:08:05] Ina Centaur: hmm not really into any vamp rp's..
[21:08:15] Ina Centaur: dunno i'm really more into philosophical vamps.. like anne rice stuff
[21:08:33] Ina Centaur: the masquerade is kinda what the midian vamps rp to
[21:08:37] Ina Centaur: ... well two years ago at least
[21:08:39] Ina Centaur: not sure about now
[21:08:59] Ji Ni: ya i loved how rice explored the ethics of predaton
[21:09:08] Ji Ni: predation rather
[21:09:36] Ji Ni: never been to midian myself
[21:10:11] Ina Centaur: midian is where all the rp is.. esp if you like the dark xxx kind
[21:10:21] Ina Centaur: although most people there aren't exactly cultured
[21:10:27] Ina Centaur: and sometimes it's really just xxx without any rp
[21:10:29] Ina Centaur: kinda annoying
[21:10:38] Ji Ni: ya i find that too
[21:10:58] Ji Ni: was in Krull alot, and most guys are just wandering around looking for some titties to jack off to
[21:11:12] Ji Ni: hardly any rp at all
[21:11:18] Ji Ni: or dcc duelers
[21:11:32] Ji Ni: and thy arent rp'ing either really
[21:12:00] Ina Centaur: lol
[21:13:06] Ji Ni: it takes an immersive program for most people to rp nowadays
[21:13:16] Ji Ni: or you have the old school text style guys
[21:13:41] Ji Ni: where you stand there looking at each other...."I slowly cut away your top."
[21:13:50] Ji Ni: ok, take off your top
[21:13:54] Ji Ni: hu?
[21:13:57] Ji Ni: take off your top
[21:13:59] Ina Centaur: lol
[21:14:00] Ji Ni: why?
[21:14:07] Ji Ni: cuz i said i cut it away
[21:14:24] Ji Ni: so? then do it
[21:14:29] Ina Centaur: yeah and there are SLxxx huds that do ascii animations instead of anything 3d lol
[21:14:40] Ji Ni: ya
[21:14:54] Ina Centaur: lol i guess it just shows people don't really need much to go xxx
[21:15:00] Ina Centaur: maybe all the visuals are excessive
[21:15:03] Ji Ni: so id rather see a full on mmog, then id be out of here so fast
[21:15:04] Ina Centaur: it's all mental i guess
[21:15:28] Ina Centaur: hum just a xxx mmog?... have you tried the mansion/playboy?
[21:15:37] Ji Ni: no
[21:15:50] Ji Ni: i mean like a mmog that happens to have xxx content
[21:16:00] Ji Ni: incorporating the two
[21:16:14] Ji Ni: to me its silly to separate the two
[21:16:23] Ji Ni: just having sex sims is sooo boring
[21:16:30] Ji Ni: cant stand it
[21:16:44] Ji Ni: then having things like warcraft, but you cant take yoru clothes off....
[21:16:58] Ji Ni: or talk about sex cuz little kids play it
[21:17:11] Ji Ni: meanwhile your night elf is freakin a hottie
[21:17:20] Ji Ni: and guys are mackin on you all the time
[21:17:44] Ina Centaur: lol
[21:17:49] Ina Centaur: o.O
[21:17:49] Ji Ni: and im thinkin...man would be cool to have a clan of horde goblins come over the hill and tie me up
[21:17:56] Ina Centaur: hahaha
[21:18:01] Ji Ni: then torment me as they stand around laughing
[21:18:01] Ina Centaur: well you can sorta do that
[21:18:05] Ina Centaur: with some imagination
[21:18:30] Ji Ni: im not into sorta
[21:18:31] Ina Centaur: lol you can sorta just get a bunch of guys to tie up your nightelf
[21:18:40] Ji Ni: i want a mmog that does exactly that
[21:18:45] Ina Centaur: but yeah i don't think you can do much about changing your appearance other than changing defaults
[21:19:09] Ina Centaur: mmog with battle and real spoils of war
[21:19:11] Ina Centaur: hum...
[21:19:43] Ji Ni: yep, and immersive rp environments, player driven economy, arts, music, beautiful clothes
[21:19:59] Ina Centaur: lol
[21:20:04] Ina Centaur: how would the econ work?
[21:20:05] Ji Ni: and forced capture, and rape, and slavery
[21:20:06] Ina Centaur: prostitution? o.O
[21:20:15] Ji Ni: i suppose that would happen
[21:20:30] Ji Ni: but if you leave it open then the players decide
[21:20:44] Ji Ni: they arent forced to be brutal, just the option is there
[21:20:57] Ji Ni: and the tools for noble players to bring teh savage to terms
[21:21:14] Ji Ni: a game that encompasses the human condition
[21:21:24] Ji Ni: both positive and negative
[21:21:46] Ji Ni: and vamps :)
[21:22:22] Ji Ni: nobody has done it yet, but they are getting close
[21:22:40] Ji Ni: age of conana was going to be a full on adult mmog
[21:22:46] Ji Ni: conan rather
[21:23:04] Ji Ni: but from what ive seen its basically the same old mmog
[21:23:30] Ina Centaur: basically, a historically accurate medieval simulation
[21:23:38] Ina Centaur: that lets players be whatever... and go on crusades
[21:23:39] Ji Ni: ya :)
[21:25:09] Ina Centaur: totally possible and fun. but step 1 would be to find funding. :-\
[21:26:05] Ji Ni: ya
[21:26:26] Ji Ni: so its a dream to me, i dont know any zillionairs
[21:26:40] Ji Ni: and in todays financial climate people arenet really in the mood to invest
[21:26:55] Ji Ni: alot of games in current development are going bust
[21:28:11] Ina Centaur: yup :-\
[21:28:30] Ji Ni: ah well hehe ill just dream
[21:30:19] Ina Centaur: well..
[21:30:27] Ina Centaur: you could try organizing some advocacy in SL maybe
[21:30:31] Ji Ni: it would be quite the splash though, think how grand theft auto hits the news all the time as the benchmark of hardcore games
[21:30:34] Ina Centaur: get a few hundred or thousand SL'ers to each donate $10
[21:30:58] Ji Ni: along comes Ji Ni, um...you can be enslaved and raped?
[21:31:01] Ina Centaur: hmm the other thing is, violence games typically work out if you don't play a realistic human..
[21:31:05] Ina Centaur: gta ... you play a car?
[21:31:13] Ji Ni: no you play a gangster
[21:31:22] Ji Ni: stealing cars is part of the game
[21:31:34] Ji Ni: ie the legal charge, grand theft auto
[21:32:37] Ji Ni: the fundamentalists in the states went insane where in gta 3 you get points for killing the hooker after you lure her into your car for some nookie
[21:32:57] Ji Ni: small point they overlooked, the game is clearly rated mature
[21:33:04] Ji Ni: its actually a crime to buy it for minors
[21:33:49] Ina Centaur: lol
[21:34:10] Ji Ni: course they never mention that, or how it has a huge fan following of people that are clearly law abiding almost exclusively
[21:34:16] Ina Centaur: cool. i havent played gta since its early versions
[21:34:48] Ji Ni: its jsut a fantasy on the screen and adults can deal with that
[21:35:02] Ina Centaur: presumably..
[21:35:17] Ji Ni: if they cant they are crazy, in which case they are crazy anyway
[21:35:27] Ji Ni: the game didnt create that
[21:36:11] Ji Ni: crime is created by poverty, and abuse
[21:36:25] Ji Ni: by subverted cultures and war
[21:36:31] Ji Ni: not video games
[21:36:38] Ji Ni: people need to grow up and realise that
[21:36:52] Ji Ni: its so infantile
[21:37:31] Ji Ni: by chasing after a black sheep they dont have to really deal with the issues of their culter
[21:37:34] Ji Ni: culture
[21:38:08] Ji Ni: which results in it never getting solved, so why should i sympathise with it
[21:38:16] Ina Centaur: you could start a movement getting people to see that point..
[21:38:34] Ji Ni: hehe
[21:38:42] Ji Ni: i dont think im that keen
[21:39:09] Ji Ni: ive been involved with a few organisatinos and non profits
[21:39:26] Ji Ni: most people in them are joiners, not changers
[21:39:42] Ji Ni: they just liek the politics and being involved in something
[21:40:00] Ji Ni: it could be for the preservation of popsicle sticks for all they know
[21:40:33] Ji Ni: when they are confronted to actually change they get scared and run
[21:40:52] Ina Centaur: lol
[21:40:59] Ji Ni: or say others need to change, after all they are in the organisation, THEY dont need to change
[21:41:05] Ina Centaur: yeah true.. annoying sheeple thing
[21:41:14] Ji Ni: ya
[21:41:23] Ji Ni: so with all that work not much gets done
[21:41:33] Ji Ni: i think id rather game :)
[21:41:41] Ji Ni: although....
[21:41:50] Ji Ni: since im on the two topics
[21:42:06] Ji Ni: to me mmogs are a tremendous opportunity for a social experiment
[21:42:15] Ji Ni: see there are no cops
[21:42:30] Ji Ni: if you provide a game like mine, where complete depravity is posible
[21:42:51] Ji Ni: or can persue culture, city building, arts and crafts
[21:43:04] Ji Ni: creating a kingdom of peace
[21:43:12] Ji Ni: its up to the players
[21:43:17] Ji Ni: no cops, no govmt
[21:43:28] Ji Ni: they are in an alien landscape
[21:43:36] Ji Ni: most players dont know what to do lol
[21:43:49] Ji Ni: all of a sudden they have to be their own person
[21:43:56] Ji Ni: decide for themselves
[21:44:05] Ina Centaur: yeah.. too much freedom might confuse..
[21:44:14] Ina Centaur: kinda like SL.. gamers often sign on "there's nothing to do in SL (there's no goal)"
[21:44:22] Ina Centaur: the natural question i ask them, "so, what do you do in RL?"
[21:44:37] Ji Ni: and they can see a world go either way, they can see for themselves complete anarchy in this simulated world
[21:45:06] Ji Ni: which illustrates graphically the justification for civilisation
[21:45:14] Ji Ni: they can acutally experience that
[21:45:18] Ji Ni: in a game
[21:45:29] Ji Ni: hehe slick eh
[21:46:08] Ji Ni: my gms' would be merciless
[21:46:15] Ina Centaur: lol
[21:46:27] Ji Ni: some punk is running around kiling randomly, stealing grain out of the city coffers
[21:46:31] Ina Centaur: hmm civilization the game sorta does that
[21:46:43] Ji Ni: some winers will inevitably call the game admins and cry
[21:46:57] Ji Ni: some guys wrecking the game waaa waaa waaa
[21:47:08] Ji Ni: my gm's grow up ya winer
[21:47:17] Ji Ni: get a sword and kill him, moron
[21:47:37] Ji Ni: they have to make it happen
[21:47:42] Ji Ni: on their own
[21:47:57] Ji Ni: justice? or not?
[21:48:05] Ji Ni: civilisation, or chaos
[21:48:26] Ji Ni: oddly it can teach some lessons
[21:48:36] Ji Ni: despite just being a game
[21:49:17] Ji Ni: man im ranting tonight lol
[21:52:08] Ina Centaur: lol
[21:52:37] Ina Centaur: you're listing some good reasons for the game.. might be able to put up a grant app for one of the nat'l funding agencies
[21:52:51] Ji Ni: hrm, interesting idea
[21:52:52] Ina Centaur: advertise it as both an immersive historical simulation and also good for social and econ research
[21:53:02] Ji Ni: the govmt would fund a game with rape in it?
[21:53:33] Ina Centaur: you wouldn't be explicit about that. euphemism it: with as much deference to historical accuracy as possible
[21:53:41] Ina Centaur: (and rapes and spoils of war are implicitly part of the package ;-P)
[21:53:46] Ji Ni: that would go over awsome with people being refused welfare because of the financial crisis
[21:54:03] Ji Ni: they find out govmt money is going to a game
[21:54:13] Ji Ni: i dont know if i could live with that
[21:54:21] Ina Centaur: well, that's not how the gov works though
[21:54:31] Ina Centaur: basically, the funding orgs will get money no matter what
[21:54:35] Ina Centaur: and they still have to divy it up
[21:54:48] Ina Centaur: it would sux that it goes over to another dumb experiment instead of something that actually works
[21:54:58] Ji Ni: lol
[21:55:00] Ina Centaur: and sadly, the nat'l funding agencies typically end up funding useless crap
[21:55:07] Ji Ni: they do
[21:55:16] Ina Centaur: --which only get funding because the application has a team of namebrand people who aren't really actually involved in the project lol
[21:55:42] Ji Ni: here they just announced a 20million dollar annual literary prize thingy
[21:55:48] Ina Centaur: so yeah, it would make sense if the gov worked more like a family unit... where dessert money is canceled if we can't afford to buy a main meal
[21:55:54] Ina Centaur: but no, that's not the way things work
[21:56:10] Ina Centaur: these gov orgs will always get money, and so there's no guilt thinking that that money could have been saving someone from dying of hunger
[21:56:30] Ina Centaur: oh?
[21:56:36] Ji Ni: ya
[21:56:50] Ji Ni: its canada were all artsy
[21:56:57] Ina Centaur: meh
[21:57:00] Ji Ni: lol
[21:57:17] Ji Ni: yep forget child poverty, lets give money to reclusive novel writers
[21:57:21] Ina Centaur: name of the prize?
[21:57:24] Ji Ni: i forget
[21:57:28] Ina Centaur: /me so wants to be a canadian :-O
[21:57:33] Ji Ni: lol
[21:57:41] Ina Centaur: lol
[21:57:47] Ji Ni: its a cool country actually i dont mind, but harper has to go
[21:57:48] Ina Centaur: but yeah the thing with world hunger is also kinda dumb
[21:57:55] Ina Centaur: the usa produces enough food to feed the world.. but most of it goes to waste
[21:58:02] Ina Centaur: literally, farming companies burn their crops when it's cheaper to not harvest
[21:58:31] Ina Centaur: would really make sense if people end up being allowed to volunteer to help harvest
[21:58:40] Ina Centaur: instead of dumping money on hefta or whatever
[21:58:49] Ina Centaur: harper?
[21:58:58] Ji Ni: harper is the current prime minister
[21:59:08] Ji Ni: he's a conservative, kinda a bush clone
[21:59:53] Ji Ni: ultra scary christian fundamentalist, most people dont know about that
[22:00:29] Ji Ni: believes that christians must create the new world order accordng to gods law, sounds kinda intifada
[22:01:21] Ji Ni: hes barely hanging on to power though, he'll be gone soon
[22:01:53] Ina Centaur: wow..
[22:01:55] Ji Ni: sorry politics
[22:02:02] Ji Ni: not my fav chat topic
[22:02:04] Ina Centaur: and i thought canada was liberal heaven..
[22:02:10] Ji Ni: lol no
[22:02:48] Ji Ni: we almost legalised pot though, that scared the shit out of the american govmt
[22:03:28] Ji Ni: cuz then americans would look across the border and go hrm....why cant we have that, they arent all shooting each other and going crazy like the psa's said
[22:03:52] Ina Centaur: i thought pot was legal in canada..
[22:04:02] Ji Ni: medical pot is
[22:04:04] Ina Centaur: somehow remember people crossing the border for that
[22:04:07] Ina Centaur: hmm
[22:04:13] Ji Ni: but legalisation no
[22:04:22] Ina Centaur: lol
[22:04:41] Ji Ni: not that it makes any difference its still about as hard to get as hockey cards
[22:04:55] Ji Ni: prohibition simply dosent work
[22:05:07] Ji Ni: eeps politics again
[22:05:13] Ji Ni: vampires
[22:05:16] Ji Ni: hrm...
[22:05:48] Ina Centaur: lol
[22:05:53] Ina Centaur: vampires and politics?
[22:05:58] Ji Ni: noooo
[22:06:02] Ina Centaur: yeah vamp mythos is totally about politics..
[22:06:10] Ji Ni: really?
[22:06:10] Ina Centaur: seriously.. the politics among vamps...
[22:06:14] Ina Centaur: yeah!!
[22:06:22] Ji Ni: well your immortal what else is there to do
[22:06:34] Ji Ni: other than hot sex
[22:06:36] Ji Ni: and art
[22:06:38] Ina Centaur: lol... um.. become enlightened, learn and see everything you can
[22:06:46] Ji Ni: lol
[22:06:49] Ina Centaur: i dunno.. if you're anne rice vampires and sunlight and airlessness don't destroy you..
[22:06:57] Ina Centaur: launch yourself off into space and just float until you land on an interesting planet
[22:07:04] Ina Centaur: (if earth becomes boring to you)
[22:07:07] Ji Ni: that would be wild
[22:07:21] Ina Centaur: but yeah.. as long as there's civilization and tech.. try out all the new cool tech toys
[22:07:27] Ina Centaur: *lots* of stuff
[22:07:37] Ji Ni: there was a movie about that way back in the 80's
[22:07:41] Ina Centaur: but omg politics though :-O ... i guess that's what a normal person would end up wasting immortality with
[22:07:51] Ji Ni: vampires came to earth in a space ship, to feed
[22:08:01] Ina Centaur: alien vamps lol
[22:08:07] Ina Centaur: what is it with aliens and eating humans..
[22:08:17] Ji Ni: what else are we good for?
[22:08:36] Ji Ni: i think its a psycological reaction to overpopulation
[22:08:45] Ji Ni: we become self nihilistic
[22:09:11] Ji Ni: or not
[22:09:28] Ji Ni: this nihilism dosent seem to actually be working lol
[22:09:43] Ina Centaur: yeah...
[22:09:46] Ina Centaur: vampires end up propagating
[22:09:51] Ina Centaur: the classic excuse: loneliness..
[22:10:00] Ina Centaur: though i guess at a certain point they become like lemmings and war breaks out
[22:10:29] Ji Ni: interesting war is a phenom of overpopulaton
[22:10:36] Ji Ni: that would explain alot
[22:11:15] Ji Ni: its all still terribly horrifically pitri dish like
[22:11:15] Ina Centaur: well, war is typically about resources
[22:11:30] Ina Centaur: it's all very basic. think back when you were little kids and you fought with that other kid over posession of a special pencil..
[22:11:41] Ina Centaur: it's all about who gets to hold the ultimate stick!
[22:12:09] Ina Centaur: and i guess places with more population need more sticks.. and they battle places with sticks...... o.O
[22:12:13] Ina Centaur: insert: oil, spice, etc
[22:12:44] Ina Centaur: lol yeah i think the game Civilization 2 lets you vary those factors over many years to see how history might have been different
[22:13:51] Ji Ni: hehe another teaching game
[22:14:51] Ina Centaur: lol
[22:15:42] Ji Ni: Marleina :)
[22:15:51] Marleina Baily: Hey yal
[22:16:09] Ji Ni: How are ya?
[22:16:19] Marleina Baily: Oh I'm good
[22:16:23] Marleina Baily: a tad tired
[22:16:44] Ji Ni: getting late there?
[22:17:00] Marleina Baily: yes. it's twelve fifteen
[22:17:03] Marleina Baily: here
[22:17:28] Marleina Baily: and I've gotta be up bright eyed and bushy tailed in the morning
[22:17:47] Ina Centaur: rawr. non-vampy bedtime for you;-)
[22:17:51] Ji Ni: wow who did your form Marleina?
[22:18:04] Marleina Baily: huh?
[22:18:13] Ji Ni: your form, your bodyshape
[22:18:25] Marleina Baily: oh my shape
[22:18:53] Marleina Baily: Um I got it for free at pixeldolls I think that's what it's called
[22:19:00] Ji Ni: thats easily one of the best faces ive ever seen
[22:19:21] Marleina Baily: lol I somewhat look asian
[22:19:30] Ji Ni: yes :)
[22:19:40] Ji Ni: even harder to pull off
[22:20:00] Marleina Baily: hmm and the skin was like ffty l
[22:20:03] Marleina Baily: fifty
[22:20:20] Ji Ni: score for you :)
[22:20:26] Marleina Baily: I dont have a job here so...yeah
[22:20:46] Marleina Baily: makes is kinda difficult for me to get anything nice
[22:20:46] Ji Ni: me either, im a hjippy
[22:20:54] Marleina Baily: lol
[22:21:06] Marleina Baily: And i got some great friends
[22:21:10] Marleina Baily: :)
[22:21:11] Ji Ni: i think its more fun to scrounge anyway
[22:21:26] Marleina Baily: yeah and i like to mix in match
[22:21:42] Marleina Baily: well i gotta go say hey to a buddy
[22:21:49] Marleina Baily: see yall tomorrow
[22:21:53] Ji Ni: cya :)
[22:23:32] Ji Ni: Well i should roam around a bit too
[22:23:57] Ji Ni: Cya Ina :) |
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